There is a documentary on video that I think most will find interesting. It is called the FOG of WAR. R. McNamara was the Secetary of Defense for JFK. It is interesting now that R MAC reviews those decisions today and makes you wonder who the decision makers are.

Now my view on Iraq and past WW1 and WWII are apples and oranges.

The new documentary Fahrenheit 911 and even now there is a lot of controversy. Albeit that the Moore is not a fan of the war nor the Bush administration.

Do I think the USA is the best country to live in? Yes, but like ROME we are all Romans who should learn from History.

Politics is the true destroyer of nations.

Fog of War trailer

Fog of War - web site

Some interesting quotes not from the movie but from both sides of war vs. peace. The last quote is what is happening today and in centuries before.

"Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship . . . Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
Nazi leader, Hermann Goering,
( before he was sentenced to death at the Nuremberg trials.)


"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
-GW Bush
( during a photo-op with Congressional leaders on 12/18/2000. )

"I am strongly in favor of using poisoned gas against uncivilized tribes. The moral effect should be good. . . and it would spread a lively terror."
Winston Churchill
Commenting on the British use of poison gas against the Iraqis after World War I

"No triumph of peace can equal the armed triumph of war. In strict confidence . . . I should welcome almost any war, for I think this country needs one."
Theodore Roosevelt


"The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse military service."
Albert Einstein


"I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, as only one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidiy ." (and )
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, from those who are cold and are not clothed. The world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

"Military power wins battles, but spiritual power wins wars."
General George C. Marshall, ( 1880 - 1959 )