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Thread: 20" wheels....pics

  1. #16
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    I could never imagine putting anything other than some type of steel or steel alloy wheel on an SUV since they have such hard suspensions. I have magnesium alloy rims on my Benzo and they are soft of F*&K. I busted 2 tires and bent 2 rims hitting potholes this past Winter. I swear, if I have to replace one more $800 rim or another $200 tire on that car, I'm putting some raggy old steel rims with no finish on it.

    Don't think there's a way to go bigger and lighter at the same time with a SUV. U want lighter, put a set of those dinky little Scion wheels on your VX That should make for an interesting (if not funny) looking mod.

  2. #17

    Talking Kahuna

    I'm getting a similar setup today. I different wheel look but I'm pretty sure it's the same size. $2400. They were even special ordered. But he tire/wheel shop owner has a VX so I think he has a soft spot for others. I can't wait to get the Baja Claws off!
    Hotwheels™ toy come to life.
    www.doubleadesign.com

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    Take a look at mine!

    Look in the photo gallery under Sam to see what my Vx looks like with 20" on!!!!!!

  4. #19

    Now, this is an example...

    of where a bunch of us split off. I am looking forward to my new 20's but I had to be assured there would be enough meat (rubber) so the tires didn't look anemic. Nothing against sam's ride but, like lowering a VX, it's not my taste. I believe there was a thread arguing this very point. I just happen to be on the side that see the VX needing more meat.

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    ..... one of the unique aspects of the VX - this is a vehicle that lends itself to just about anything ........
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    low profile 20's .............. 32" off road tires ..............
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    lifted .......... lowered ............
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    I like it (just about) stock .......
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    some spend the weekend going over their VX with wax - while others are in three foot deep bogs .......
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    a very versatile vehicle

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    Makes you want to buy two.

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    Originally posted by Bagheera
    Hi Y33TREKker,

    When I ordered the rims, they told me they had a +10 wheel and a + 20 offset there as well......I was having a huge dilema over what to do, but I told them that I wanted the tire/wheel to stick out about 1.5" so they said go with +10 for the offset....I am not too if the +20 would sit too much farther in.....I'll let someone else with 20" rims chime in on that one.....
    I guess I was just curious how close that particular offset, wheel size, and tire size brought the tire to such things as the struts, and the inner fender wells and frame when turning lock-to-lock. Before I bought the wheels and tires for my car (after lowering it), I checked to see how close the stock wheel/tire combo came to the strut spring perches so I'd know about how much room I had to work with. I then started experimenting with rim/tire size calculators like the one on www.1010tires.com to find out what rim and tire widths (with the appropriate offsets) I could use to keep everything as far into the wheel wells as I could without rubbing against anything during normal use.

    http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp

    The calculator will give you overall dimensions (in three-dimensional form) for making comparisons, which is especially useful when you're also considering changing rim and tire 'widths'. After Plus-Two sizing, this is what I came up with on the car:

    http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/...7153366014.jpg

    I'm about as close as I cared to get to the spring perches with my tires, and about as close to even with the fender lines without sticking out as I could get. That's for a car though, and obviously SUV's are somewhat different depending on whether you prefer a street, or an offroad look.

    I think your set-up looks great, don't get me wrong, I'd just prefer to keep things inside the fender lines if at all possible. And If I could do that with 20's by just going with a higher offset, that would work for me. Specifically, I'm curious how close the top/inside of the tire on the new setup is to everything. Since 1.5" = 38.1mm though, merely going from a +10 to a +20 wouldn't achieve my goal. Keeping a set of 20's inside the fender wells may just mean having to go with a narrower setup.

    Sorry for the novel. Using the tire size calculators is one thing, but real world measurements are even better.

  8. #23

    not to confuse the matter

    But, i just put on 20's/9.5. And the offset had to be 0. So from the above post it looks like it really depends on the rims your getting. mine stick out about an inch and the cladding needed trimming.

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    doubleadesign... let's see some pics!

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    yes! ASAP

    tomorrow. I promise. I wish I had done this mod sooner.

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    Re: not to confuse the matter

    Originally posted by doubleadesign
    But, i just put on 20's/9.5. And the offset had to be 0. So from the above post it looks like it really depends on the rims your getting. mine stick out about an inch and the cladding needed trimming.
    That might partly answer my question of whether Bagheera still had some room to work with between the tire and the strut, etc then. It brings up a couple of other questions though. When you measured the width of your 20x9.5's, did you measure the rims from actual inside edge to outside edge, or bead-to-bead? Bead-to-bead is what determines the rim width spec.

    And did you use the exact same tire size on your 20x9.5's that Bagheera did on his 20x8.5's, or something slightly wider? If you had to go wider because of the wider rims, I'd be curious about how much room you still have between the upper/inner side of your tire, and the strut and inner fender well/frame too.

    Going by my calculations, both of your setups should stick out about the same distance from the face of the rotor, give or take a couple of millimeters. But if you measured your 20x9.5's from edge to edge rather than bead-to-bead, that would account for the 1/2" (12.7mm) difference you mentioned.

    Then again.....I could be wrong.


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    (semi off topic - but related) ......
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    as for the cladding clearance ....... 265-60-18's on stock wheels made contact with the cladding on my VX ...... maybe this particular brand of tire is larger than some other 265-60's .........
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    or maybe my VX sits a tad lower than many other VX's .....
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    ???
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    (off topic and not related) .....
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    Y33 - you might have liked the frame/bike one of my buds had - a limited ed Y50 (Y5O ?) ........ not the light blue carbon frame that I have seen in a few Trek brochures, but a black carbon frame with red and green (rasta type) accents ..........

  13. #28

    still need to post pics

    I just went to the best shop in town. Showed him a few pics on the board and piced my rim style. He did the rest. I only know about the 0 offset because he first tried to put on aset that were 15mm offset andthey didn't fit. other than than i leave it to the experts. it helped that the owner of the shop has a VX.

  14. #29

    here are some pics.

    They are not great pics. I really am a good photographer but I just have been lazy with some of these pics. They are "insurance guy" pics. Anyway, here's the link: http://homepage.mac.com/doubleadesign/PhotoAlbum52.html

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    Thumbs up

    They Look GREAT! nice job...
    -Dave


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