Sirius or XM?

[Joe_Black]

Originally posted by psychos2
i may have to switch to xm. i cannot stand howard stern.he used to be funny ,now he is just plain annoying. shawn

Just edit his channel out of the list, like you do on any modern television. That's like moving to another state just because you don't like someone who lives on the other side of town.

[vxgas]

I would recommend XM because I have had it for about 2 years now. There is no difference in price because sirrus has lowered there prices to $10 a month just like xm is. I have my unit sitting on the dash and connected to the factory stereo through a wireless fm modulator. I love xm and would highly recommend it to anyone out there especially if you go on long trips or travel long distinces to work everyday like I do. The comedy channel alone is worth the $10 a month. I have the old unit by sony that came out about 2 years ago and I can easily take it out of the VX and hook it up at home or at work. The great thing about the wireless fm modulator is that I can hook it up in the car and run it through the stereo in my garage at the same time.
O yeah just a tidbit for any of you tech guys out there. I was talking to one of the local stereo shops around my hometown. He said that XM might be buying out Sirrus to use there satilite to broadcast live Music videos and movies for your car. But that might have been just a bunch of bull. Take it for what you will but that would be great for everyone.

VXGAS

[Joe_Black]

Originally posted by vxgas
O yeah just a tidbit for any of you tech guys out there. I was talking to one of the local stereo shops around my hometown. He said that XM might be buying out Sirrus to use there satilite to broadcast live Music videos and movies for your car. But that might have been just a bunch of bull. Take it for what you will but that would be great for everyone.

VXGAS

Yeah, that one's been circulating for a while. Most folk don't know SIRIUS put their satellites up way before XM and waited to accumulate a big cash base before going to market. They knew it was going to be a long dollar burn before even smelling profit. That's why XM got to market first. Unfortunately for XM they've been looking at 1 of their 2 satellites deteriorate (SIRIUS has 3) and have had to keep money available to put the spare up when it fails. Plus their cash reserves weren't as hefty as the competition. So there's no chance of a buyout, at least not from XM. Maybe a big entertainment or media house, but this market is still young and many will be watching to see how well it's adopted. With less than 3 million subscibers between them it's still a small market. And keep in mind that XM counts trial subs and OEM installs (activated or not) in their numbers, so it's not even that good.

I think they'll both do well and continue to grow market share, especially as long as they're the only two games in town. Coke and Pepsi, chocolate and vanilla, people need a choice and the two satellite providers do just that.

[Heraclid]

Dallas4U, Howard Stern will not be premium programming on SIRIUS - it is going to be standard with no extra charge.

BaM*BaM, for what it's worth, anyone who thinks Rush is an idiot is paying more attention to what real idiots are saying than to what Rush is actually saying. I have had people tell me the most ludicrous things about him, and as a daily listener for many years, I know right off the bat that they haven't listened before they judged. I had a friend swear up and down that she listened to Rush and that he said some crap about sitting on the right hand side of God. He does say that he has "talent on loan from God", and that he is "tying one half of his brain behind his back just to make it fair", but that's as close as he has ever come to anything even way remotely like saying that. The stuff he does say that sounds pretty cocky is just said precisely because it does push certain people's buttons. It doesn't bother his loyal listeners a bit because they know better.

I don't think much of Howard Stern but he has a right to be out there doing what he's doing and nobody is forced to listen. I just think it is pretty sad that he has found such a receptive audience out there that he is so very successful doing it.

[zadam123]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Joe_Black
[B]Check eBay, pages of Roady2 units and accessories. Plus all that stuff is directly available from XM's website and affiliated vendors such as Crutchfield.

Delphi Roady/Roady2 on eBay




Be carefull some places say they have an antenna thats compatable for the roady2 like circute city. I drove over there only to find out that the plug was diffrent, it has some kind of pink end that wont fit on the roady and when i asked them what was up he told me to prake the end of the antenna to make it fit. Yeh right . if i did that it wouldnt last a week with unpluging it and repluging it.

If you buy an antenna make shure it is a 90 degree angle like the orignal.

Also i cant understand how people are selling the roady2 on eabay for more than most stores like circute city or best buy are selling them for , i paid 122 for mine and am getting a free home kit rebate

[BaM*BaM]

Sorry to take this off topic,...but.. LOL

Heraclid, wrote in an attempt to 'correct me"

"For what it's worth, anyone who thinks Rush is an idiot is paying more attention to what real idiots are saying than to what Rush is actually saying."

Above all I am not interested in a discussion on this with any of Rush Limbaugh's "True Believers"> LOL

But for what it's worth: ...the last time I was "idiot" enough to watch (listen to?) his show, was back when he was swearing to his viewers, that both Clinton and his wife, Hilary, were actually paid secret agents of the Soviet KGB, who had been trained in Moscow, during the time that the Clintons' were in Russia as college students. He was also raging about how he had certain proof of these claims. And he was also raging at that time about how electing Clinton, and Clinton's demands for a balanced budget, and a complete welfare reform, would result in sending the USA economy into it's greatest crisis of all time!

The last I have heard about this Rush Limbaugh person, was how he was thrown out of ESPN's employment for saying on the air, that Donovan McNabb, the undefeated, top ranked Eagle's black quarterback, was only being tolerated as the teams quarterback, because of his black colour.

I think this was right before he was forced into publically admitting that he was indeed a drug addict, who was hooked on a variety of illegal prescription drugs, and that he, himself, had been fraudulently forging real Doctor's signatures onto prescriptions forms that he had stolen from various doctors' offices in order to obtain more illegal drugs for his admitted addiction.

I am not sure how you personally define your own proper use of the word 'idiot', but I feel extremely comfortable in using this word to describe Limbaugh and his ardent faithful.

Idiot????....

Go figure....

[Dallas4u]

Originally posted by BaM*BaM
Sorry to take this off topic,...but.. LOL

Heraclid, wrote in an attempt to 'correct me"

"For what it's worth, anyone who thinks Rush is an idiot is paying more attention to what real idiots are saying than to what Rush is actually saying."

I have found that, when it comes to political matters, Heraclid likes to think he is right... it doesn't matter what you think.

Other than that, I think he's a pretty decent fellow.

[Joe_Black]

Originally posted by Heraclid
Dallas4U, Howard Stern will not be premium programming on SIRIUS - it is going to be standard with no extra charge.

The word from SIRIUS is he may develop two additional premium streams, but the main Stern stream will be included in the normal subscription.

Now, as for politics... That's one area where we can all agree to disagree. Don't step up to the plate and start swinging. I'll personally vouch for Heraclid being one of the most sincere, decent people you'll ever know. I may not agree with him or anyone else as far as politics, religion, how to trim my Chia Pet and such other nebulous matters. But I do respect him a great deal. So, back on track...

[BaM*BaM]

Here is an interesting audio report on the Howard Stern hiring and the recent Sirius and XM marketing war.
NPR Satellite Radio Rivalry Heats Up

[Heraclid]

he was swearing to his viewers, that both Clinton and his wife, Hilary, were actually paid secret agents of the Soviet KGB


This is exactly what I meant. I have never heard anything like that from him, ever. I think you come by this information via some intermediary source, and I don't believe for a moment that you heard it for yourself straight from his lips.



he was also raging at that time about how electing Clinton, and Clinton's demands for a balanced budget, and a complete welfare reform, would result in sending the USA economy into it's greatest crisis of all time!


That also sounds pretty preposterous. What conservative would argue against a true balanced budget initiative? On the contrary, he and a lot of other conservatives spend quite a bit of time arguing that it's high time the government showed some fiscal responsibility. And Clinton's notion of welfare reform involves a whole lot of out-of-control spending without accountability, i.e. making sure the program really accomplishes something (or is even necessary vs. just being a tool to court voters more interested in a handout than going out and working hard and thus truly empowering themselves).



he was thrown out of ESPN's employment for saying on the air, that Donovan McNabb, the undefeated, top ranked Eagle's black quarterback, was only being tolerated as the teams quarterback, because of his black colour.


First, he wasn't fired. ESPN put him there for ratings, pure and simple, and it worked big-time. It would have continued to work. Second, you should go back and see what Michael Irvin had to say about it, because he agreed with what was actually said. Interestingly enough, the network ran its own story in the very same broadcast that went into great depth about how McNabb's performance was less than stellar at that time. In fact Rush was not putting down McNabb per se, but he was making a comment on the nature of the sports media (many members of which affirmed him) and he did say that he believed McNabb's teammates (regardless of color) deserved more credit for the Eagles' success. And anyone who knows much about Rush (what he is really saying, who his friends are, who guest-hosts his show, etc.) knows he isn't racist. Read up on this some more, maybe starting with a fair and accurate article such as this:
http://www.americandaily.com/article/1544



he, himself, had been fraudulently forging real Doctor's signatures onto prescriptions forms that he had stolen from various doctors' offices in order to obtain more illegal drugs for his admitted addiction.


Again your information is what is fraudulent so don't believe it so readily. Rush has admitted he had an addiction, but maintains that there was no "doctor shopping" and to this day has been charged with no crime whatsoever. What we have here is a case of the Palm Beach police department attempting to set aside privacy rights in order to seize medical records in the hopes that they might find something they can actually use against him. It's a very big deal because the wrong outcome could have implications that, for example, could lead to something like this - that in Florida a police officer could pull you over with no reason and search your car for a reason to arrest you.



I am not sure how you personally define your own proper use of the word 'idiot', but I feel extremely comfortable in using this word to describe Limbaugh and his ardent faithful.


Sorry, but in my mind the evidence in your argument has completely discredited the argument.



And to address Dallas4U's post...

I have found that, when it comes to political matters, Heraclid likes to think he is right... it doesn't matter what you think... Other than that, I think he's a pretty decent fellow.


Well thanks, I think, and the feeling is mutual. What drives people nuts is that in this one instance I really do think I am right and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. There is just something some people can't stand about folks who are sure of themselves and who won't waver just in order to tell people what they want to hear.



To Joe_Black...

There are people who show me no respect and as such do not have my respect either, and I'm not all that concerned with what those people think of me. What I do value is the opinion (good or bad) of people for whom I do have great respect. You are one such person, and as such I appreciate what you've said a great deal. Thank you! See ya tomorrow at the rallycross!

[BaM*BaM]

EVERYTHING I said is 100% percent true. ...EVERYTHING!

These Limbaugh people seem to be lost in a 'mindless faith' bubble that somehow is impervious to the truth.

But then, we all knew that anyway. (*sigh)

[Dallas4u]

Originally posted by Heraclid
Well thanks, I think, and the feeling is mutual. What drives people nuts is that in this one instance I really do think I am right and there is absolutely no doubt in my mind. There is just something some people can't stand about folks who are sure of themselves and who won't waver just in order to tell people what they want to hear.

I, for one, have no problem with people who are sure of themselves and respect others beliefs. I'm sure I understand what's right for me, and I believe I understand what's best for the country. To that, I vote. I don't need to try and convince as many people out there that I'm right and they're wrong. They can decide what they believe themselves... true for politics, true for religion.