Reiterating what Dallas4U said because I've said the same thing before too... listening to a clip of a VX with a PV at idle and revving is not the same as hearing it in a VX under load on the road. I'm thinking about making a clip for you guys where I'll run it through all of these (idle, revved up in park, running on the road) in a way where you'll see the RPMs as you're hearing it. Maybe this weekend or something. If Tone's dyno clip gets posted, that'll pretty much take care of it anyway though.