Not Impressed

[mbeach]

Having spent the last two winters with Subaru's symetrical all-wheel-drive, I'd have to say that the VX is a bit off the mark when it comes to a transparent AWD system. The slip-then-grip thing is a little unnerving, so I am adjusting my driving style.

Today I will be researching a 4hi mod. My question is,
"Why did Isuzu not include 4hi on the VX in the first place?"
There must be some reason, when other TOD equipped vehicles of the era had SOTF/2hi/4hi options, and the VX was left without.

[Maugan_VX]

you shouldn't be slipping in the first place.

that winter button is there for a reason.

If it works on ice, then it would definitely work in snow.

[mrtew]

you shouldn't be slipping in the first place.
that winter button is there for a reason.
If it works on ice, then it would definitely work in snow.

You right in a way, but anyone can creep away from a stopsign without slipping all over the road. I think what people are looking for is the ability to drive fast in the snow like Jeeps and Suburbans are observed doing. That ability is gained by shifting into 4WD low. I still would like someone to answer why they don't just do that? I mean the winter button is a PITA the way it slows you down so much and keeps going off for no reason, but the 4WD lever is FUN with a capital FUN!

[Maugan_VX]

are you trying to win a drag race in the snow?

I mean, you can go "fast" but jesus take your time getting there.

I mean the winter button is a PITA the way it slows you down so much and keeps going off for no reason

You do understand the reasoning behind the winter button right? It keeps you in a higher gear so your lead-foot wont cause you to slip and slide everywhere until you get up to speed when you wont need it anymore.

[autox-racer]

are you trying to win a drag race in the snow?

I mean, you can go "fast" but jesus take your time getting there.



You do understand the reasoning behind the winter button right? It keeps you in a higher gear so your lead-foot wont cause you to slip and slide everywhere until you get up to speed when you wont need it anymore.

well i would like to be able to do 45 mph in the snow and in 4lo that is high rpm and probably not that good on the drivetrain. so a 4hi would allow me to go 45mph w/o wheel slip and at low rpm.

[mrtew]

are you trying to win a drag race in the snow?

Yeah, I kinda am. I do use the winter button for pulling out around corners and appreciate what it does, but it's not what people are looking for when they see Jeeps etc take off from intersections like there's no snow at all and we are crawling away with no power in third gear.

I mean, you can go "fast" but jesus take your time getting there.

Good advice I'm sure, Dad, but I'd like that to be my choice not my truck's!

You do understand the reasoning behind the winter button right? It keeps you in a higher gear so your lead-foot wont cause you to slip and slide everywhere until you get up to speed when you wont need it anymore.

Yeah it's great for poking around icy corners but when you want to go fast 4WD low works like a charm. It sure helps the braking too because it locks the wheels together so the ABS doesn't kick in all the time.

well i would like to be able to do 45 mph in the snow and in 4lo that is high rpm and probably not that good on the drivetrain. so a 4hi would allow me to go 45mph w/o wheel slip and at low rpm.

I see your point and if a 4WD high was possible I'm sure I'd try it out. I don't think 45 in low is going to wear you out at all for a few days though... It's not like you're going to be near the redline or anything. Now if you're driving to Chicago or something it might be a little much, but around town it's fantastic. Hope you figure it out... I'll sign up.

[UNEVEN THOUGHTS]

It's been snowing here for the last 26 hours and I've gone out to the store 3 times. I used the "Winter" button to get up out of my driveway and then that was that. I have a completly stock VX and althought the back end gave me a couple kicks and I had the occasional floaty steering it wasn't anything unmanageable. I agree that there is room for improvement but you need to look at what else we get with our VX. IMHO we have the best, most interesting vehicle ever made and it was limited production no less! If the performence in snow bothers you that much why doesn't sombody run out to there garage and start fudgeing together something to fix the problem? If I knew more about cars and wiring I'd jump at the chance to contribute something to like this to the Board. Anyway... it's just my .02

[Maugan_VX]

Ok, I'm going to stop trying to reason with someone who wants to drive recklessly in poor driving conditions.

The point of 4wd and TOD in general is to make driving managable in poor traction conditions, not give reckless ******* a carte-blanche to compensate for some inadequecies against a jeep in snow.

I keep wondering why my insurance is so high. :eyeroll:


Oh, heres the reason why jeeps can do what they do:
GVW

VX: 3955
Jeep: 5150

More than 1000lbs pushing those tires to the ground.