Tones rear brake light flasher

[drdavidr4u]

Thanks for all the input.
I asked a cop at my gym today and she said that there is written into the law something that syas it is illegal to modify any of the required "safety equiptmnet" on a vehicle. She felt it would be a ticketable offense.
But...she didnt say if she'd pull me over!!!

I'll put it on anyway.....what the H!!!!

[Tone]

It's hidden above the headliner - there is no way for them to know whether it came stoc k or was added.

[Anita]

Ive had Cali Highway Patrol and city cops behind and around me driving at day or night... they certainly see it.. but I've never been stopped. Not knowing what a VX is, maybe they think the flashing light is a stock item.

[nyc #1 ironman]

That's how I feel Anita....

[Simon Templar]

Tone has the right take on it all, anyway.

Should I ever be pulled over for it.....it came that way. I have no reason to think that this is not what it is supposed to do.

Can you show me the modification, Officer? I'll gladly take care of it immediately. What? No apparent signs of tampering? Guess I was right....it's stock! Those crafty japanese. Have a nice day.



....sT

[nyc #1 ironman]

OMG u r 2 funny Simon,,,, That iz exactly what I will do if ever get in that situation...

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

Originally posted by zadam123

Dont cops have more important things to do than bust chops over something unharmfull like car mods

adam

I've been through this many times with previous vehicles...the answer to your question is.......


Yes they do...but, would you (as a cop) rather deal with a crack dealer/user who might be pack'in... or... harass an automobile enthusiast who probably isn't pack'in and also generate some revenue for the state to boot (ticket) all while you enjoy raining on someones parade. Hmmmmm.....difficult choice!

[nyc #1 ironman]

Well, its no secret on a slow night cops like to bust chops or have a quota to meet with giving out tickets, in which they'd rather give to us then to come to heads with a crack dealer, i have many friends on the job in NY who just simply turn their heads in order to stay alive especially when their shift is about over, so yes, they could bust chops for so many little things on your vehicle unfortunetly...

[Simon Templar]

Originally posted by Jolly Roger VX'er
...but, would you (as a cop) rather deal with a crack dealer/user who might be pack'in... or... harass an automobile enthusiast who probably isn't pack'in and also generate some revenue for the state to boot (ticket)

And that is the true meat of it after all, isn't it?

Ever wonder why your local constabulary enjoys those check-your-breath-and-sniff-your-crotch roadblocks so much?? People without their seatbelts on aren't likely to shoot back at them. Not to mention they just fall all over themselves to pay those fines. Take my money PLEASE!!!!!

Bubba and the rest of the Municipal Posse all standing about on the roadside handing out tickets whilst meanwhile armed robbery, drug-dealing, and the like all being conducted in-town in business-as-usual style without any worries.


Yes, yes....I know. I am a cynical SOB, aren't I? Sorry guys....calls 'em as I sees 'em.


....sT

[geshaw30]

I normally don't bother ranting on other's positions but I just gotta laugh at the cop-bashing. It simply never ceases to amaze me. As a street officer of 20 years in one of the most dangerous cities in America (Houston) I take offense at simplistic thinking that I perfer to hand out seatbelt tickets over chasing drug dealers out of my beat. Until you've stood in my shoes for as long as I have spare me your preconceived notions as to how police go about their duties. I have no ticket quota and most metropolitian cities don't. As a matter of fact I seldom have the time to deal with traffic violations because I'm coming to your house to deal with the burglar in your back yard or the turd stealing the Sony system out of your VX. You have a God given right to voice your opinion and I personally have no problem with it until you start to generalize. I have never run from anyone who might be armed as I have two children in this city that I would not want the same guy to confront because I let him go to chase down someone with a broken tail light. Like everyone on this forum I have a job to do and, albeit at times unpleasant, I do it to the best of my ability so you & your family can sleep well at night. Here endth the lesson.
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[Tone]

This site is created, run by and supported by one hell of a police officer. As in any profession, there are good and bad people. Power can corrupt but overall the police do far more good for society than you will ever realize and allow you to be the little brats you are. If you are worried about harrassment, tow the line and don’t take any chances. Otherwise, just do it and enjoy being an individual and deal with whatever hassles occur - but please, stop your whining and your blaming and your blanket statements that reveal ignorance.

[carlymac]

I'm with you brother,
As a "chop buster" myself it never ceases to amaze me how little some people actually know about what the police do. Yes, traffic violations are part of our job, but I am APPALLED at the statement made by Jolly Roger VX'er! If he really believes ANY police officer would rather enforce an equipment violation over a pistol wielding crack dealer he's way off. I read his post as to call police officers cowards and coffer filling goons who's sole reason for being is to "rain on someones parade". Too many good men and women have died preserving the peace each of us feel while sleeping in our beds at night to make a blanket statement like that. Almost everybody I've met has had a bad experience with a police officer, that's the nature of our job. Whether it be investigating a crime where someone has been victimized, arresting a drunk driver, issuing a traffic citation or a child seeing us take daddy to jail for beating up mommy...their all bad experiences. But every policce officer I know is genuine in his or her compassion for the fellow man. I once heard a statement that made a lot of sense "Don't curse a farmer with your mouth full of food".......think about it.

[SGT.BATGUANO]

Call me a fanboy if you want. To live in a law abiding society you have to take the favorable laws with the distastefull.

It's your responsibility to know the laws in your area and abide by them. We're all familiar with the expression," ignorance of the law is not an excuse".

Do your research, check your local statutes and if in doubt don't do it. Hell, you can call the police and ask them in advance if what you're trying is illegal.

Or,

You Pay your money and take your chances.

The judge will interpret the law for you, if need be.

The police only enforce the laws that their governments pass. The governments pass the laws that the PEOPLE (ideally) want. If you don't like the laws that your representatives pass, and you can garner enough support, the laws can be changed or repealed. The representatives can be voted out of or into office.

As has been mentioned before, there can always be a few bad apples in positions of power, and that goes for the pols as well, but when was the last time you were stopped for an infraction that you were really, TOTALLY innocent (NOT ignorant) of?

Regarding the dodging the badguys thing.....officers are killed, shot, stabbed or assaulted during traffic stops that are for routine minor infractions. Badguys come in all shapes and forms and often have no respect for traffic laws or any other laws. How many times do you hear of someone stopped for a minor violation, only to find out they have a warrant, or no license or insurance, or a gun or contraband, etc.?

Next time you get pulled over, don't be confrontational. Take the punishment that you likely brought on yourself. And remember, the last person the officer stopped may have been a real jerk or even a criminal.

Would you walk a mile in a cops shoes for the kind of wages they get, not knowing when you're gonna run into some fruitloop with a deathwish?

Or, knowing that 99% of the people you stop are not going to be happy to see you?

Give 'em a break.

Thank them, even.

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

yeah...and I suppose that the cop that pulled me over for a "light-bar" violation on my '79 Bronco just down the road from a guy selling crack at a low income housing establishment was real concerned about illegal drugs being sold. My lights weren't even hooked up...it was only for looks.

I also went to court to prove that a particular cop was lying about a citation I got. I won. He lost. He was fired a week later.

You're right about one thing...I shouldn't generalize cops or people for that matter.

But, I'll NEVER change my opinion of those particular cops nor my opinion of others I've met in MY Life.

C'est la vie

As for worrying about it...I've never let it stop me on any of my vehicles. I've had illegal lift kits...lights...red lights...
I had a cop tell me I had to remove my radar detector...funny...laws in PA say I can have one.

[SGT.BATGUANO]

Like I said , there are some bad apples.......

Also, traffic doesn't usually get involved in detective work and vice versa. If you start giving mixed directives to those branches they could easily wipe out a case being built against an alledged criminal. You know the example, rookie cop goes in to bust a deal only to find out the "dealer" is from another law enforcement group and the buyer (the intended target) walks due to a proceedural technicality in the law.

Criminals are organized so well these days that by the time your pullover cop could get to the dealer, the dealer would have been gone, since he got a 5-0 call on his cell phone when the marked car approached the end of the block. The stash would've been given to a minor or tossed.