Vette VX

[Joe_Black]

No doggin' here either, just IMHO there are better options. With the VX's SWB that LT1 is going to kill handling.

Although range would be limited by fuel consumption the turbine conversion would be awesome! Although John's hyperdrive suggestion wouldn't be bad either...;eekg;

[ScubaSteve]

I've perused this forum for a while now, and i've heard some people come up with some pretty damn crazy stuff to do to their VX... to see some of you provide this guy with anything other than encouraging words is pretty friggin' ignorant.

Good luck with your project, 992. Usually people on this board are more supportive - lotta egos here - so stick around.

[Heraclid]

Hey, I'd love to see it, and love for him to still want to talk to us if he ever does go through with it.

Had a FX35 wanting to play this afternoon. Kinda wish I had tried it just to see how far behind he left me (280hp, 270 ft lbs torque) and if I could have at least made it slightly interesting. He's probably online right now trying to find out what the heck that thing was and if it could've beat him. LOL! Hey, with a S/C it would be real tempting (probably would lose, but more interesting). :-)

[VX922]

Hi Guys, thx for the feedback some of it is good and some of it belongs to Britney fans forum.

VX can crawl rocks and outrun most of similar vehicles when on the pavement and that is what makes it so unique and a good platform for this type of conversion.
-Where diesel would really shine in say Trooper it would just kill the characteristics of the VX. To put in Axiom engine, why? I got Isuzu engine in it already and it runs like Swiss watch, those few HPs can be easily gained by opening the intake tract, regrinding camshaft lobes for more lift and increase fuel pressure. To supercharge without beefing up the vulnerable bottom end is....
-Turbines, fuel cell etc. I don’t know much about but I know my SBC.
Anyway LT1 it is!
LT1 is high torque, high revving responsive engine and a good choice of heads, camshaft and CPU tuning would only enhance the VX’s.
LT1 can probably by position lower than 6EV1 since it does not have skirt and elaborate bolt on oil gallery/brace.
Over all I am not looking for your approval to do my project but like I said at the beginning of this thread it is your intelligent opinion that I am after.

Thank you for valuable input.
VX922, the 4 years VX newbie

[mrtew]

I don't know how you define realistic, but even if it's not, a lot of us do daydream about BIG power in our little trucks. I remember a great Car&Driver project where they installed a second engine in the rear of a Honda CRX. They successfully doubled the horsepower with no drawbacks other than a little additonal weight and zero cargo room. My point is anything is possible and if this guy succeeds we all have one heck of an amazing option to think about in the future. If not, it was just a nice dream and a little laugh for some.

[Heraclid]

Anyone who did this would be my hero - I plan on keeping my VX long enough that EVENTUALLY I'll make it a real beast. Until then, I must live vicariously through others. In my mind, a VX shouldn't ever be allowed to die - it should be made damn near immortal. :-)

Joe - when are you taking a look at that Ironman? Weren't you planning to right about now?

[Moncha]

Man! Is this a busy thread or what?
I can say, every man has his dreams. I for one want to fly,.... without any means of support. I know that it's not really possible for me but, at least I have a dream.

I've been seeing and hearing quite a bit of fun being poked at the expense of the "Newbies" as of late. It matters not if a person is new or old to this site, everyone should be treated the same. Albeit, there are some that have a more intimate knowledge of the VX but, everyone has a certain spirit that lends to the overall quality of this community. Most people have ideas and are too afraid to speak out for fear of ridicule. I tend to believe, say it aloud for you never know whom may be able to help you accomplish what you wish.

[Bagheera]

THAT was an excellent post Scott!
On behalf of all of us "newbies"......THANKS

VX922 definately has the knowledge (and has passed some VERY useful info onto me firsthannd)

The VXLT1 will happen .... oh yes... it will

HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!

~Kiersten

[Heraclid]

I agree Scott - well said! I still feel like a newbie - I'm learning but I still don't know jack about a lot of this stuff. You don't learn if you don't ask.

Hey, flying is my dream too - helicopters is my thing. Took some lessons but it is just so outrageously expensive. But there is absolutely nothing like it in the world.

Happy New Year's to ALL!

[SGT.BATGUANO]

Scott,

One word: Thunder............ doh!,

I meant

SKYDIVING

[Joe_Black]

LOL! ;pg;

Sgt: Dirt darts? Been there, I'll stay in the operating aircraft from now on!

Scott: Well said, looking forward to pics and progress of whatever anyone chooses to do constructively with their VX.

Personally I'd still like to see a turbine conversion. Chrysler did it in the 60's and Marine Turbine Technologies does it with an S-10 and a motorcycle. Just check the "Motosports" section of their site. More power!

[Jolly Roger VX'er]

Originally posted by VX922
To put in Axiom engine, why? I got Isuzu engine in it already and it runs like Swiss watch, those few HPs can be easily gained by opening the intake tract, regrinding camshaft lobes for more lift and increase fuel pressure. To supercharge without beefing up the vulnerable bottom end is....

2004 Isuzu Axiom Direct Injection 3.5L is 250 hp.
1999-2001 Isuzu VehiCross 3.5L is 215hp.

That is 35hp. increase to start with. Add Blower and better exhaust and I figure close to 300hp would be the high-side of your increase. It wouldn't be easy...drive by wire throttle conversion...swapping computers...but, engine would of course fit and you would maintain your weight balance thus handling wouldn't suffer. I don't think you would have to beef up the bottom end for a mild blower like the Alpine...no one here has beefed up theirs...Of course this is uncharted territory and if you really know engines than by all means beef it up... It wouldn't be comparable to a Keith Black Hemi but I thought it to be realistic to do. Kind of like updating/upgrading our VX to todays hp output. Version 2.0 if you will! I also saw this as perhaps a route for someone experiencing motor failure. Instead of dropping in another VX 3.5L...Perhaps upgrade at additional cost?

I support you if you're serious and wish you the best of luck.

[Cyrk]

I want that motor... Direct Injection 3.5L, that motor is NICE!

Drops the 0-60 a full second down to 7.6 and 1/4 mile @ 15.4@90.9, That is probably as quick as my VX with the stinking S/C on it.

Well when my motor goes I think I'll get that one.

GOOD LUCK with your LT1 motor... will be AMAZING for sure if you can pull it off, Guess if you do that will be my next motor

-Dave

[VX922]

Few good points Jolly Roger VX’er and others
Let’s divert from the subject of LT1 for a moment.
I am not trying to replace a faulty or marginal engine. If I decide that the project is worth executing this premium used engine and other guts will be available to my fellow VX’ers and late model Zuzu owners.
The VX’s original 6EV1 is a high tech engine with unbelievably flat output across its full rpm range courtesy of selectable length runners and cloverleaf combustion chamber. It will easily outrun supercharged Toyota TRD truck and many others.
The 35HP+ can be gained on VX by easy mods that I mentioned earlier in this thread and if one wants to rollup sleeves and start degreeing cams, add centrifugal blower/intercooler preserving benefits of existing runners, computer (PCM) tuning etc. would bring the output conservatively well over 300HP! So now we are approaching barrier of 100HP/liter ratio and that is frightening because reliability and maintenance. At this point I am not addressing rest of the power train where torque converter stall speed needs to be lowered and few internals replaced…..
I am not familiar with the Axiom power train but 30extra ponies and direct injection decal would not make it my choice, furthermore that new engine is not around long enough to proof itself. Isuzu is pulling out of passenger vehicle market in its’ present form so good luck with spares and any support on that engine!!!

Thx, VX922

[coachreed]

I like the idea of an LT1... but of course, my first thought of a similar swap came from my F-Body experience... my V-8 choice was a little new technology and a little lighter weight... my choice was the LS1. I have thought and daydreamed of this a few times... and since I am in the crappy position of NEEDING a new motor, it was tempting to shoot for it... but I don't have any good sources for complete motor and computer/harness package. That of course leads into the transmission problems... my though... why not go with something familiar to me... T-56! How kick @$$ would that be? LS1 (340-350 crank HP/ 360 lbs/ft of torque) with a six speed manual trans... the motor would be lighter than an LT1 and I have LOTS of experience and have LOTS of contacts regarding this motor... now if I could just find one for a reasonable price! lol Ok, I'm gonna quit my dreaming cuz I'm sure its not gonna happen for me anything soon... then again... lemme go chat with a friend of mine... see if he knows where a motor is...

Good luck with your conversion... let us know what stage you are in... if your moving forward or what...

Later!