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FB requires compromising personal information (eg. cell-phone number) just to even access the site & have the ability to communicate on it. Thanks, but no thanks. At least on a forum, I have a little more faith that my personal information isn't going to be used for nefarious purposes by the most pimply, undeserving billionaire on the planet. Oh, and I didn't have to give my cell # to join here.Originally Posted by JoFotoz
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The filestore thing has been an issue since I created an account here. I am sure the moderators ar every nice people, with the best of intentions and do what they can when they can. But, as the recent outage, the listing of the site as a possible phishing site by not only Goggle, but also by the DOD and other sites (still black listed by DOD btw) clearly demonstrates they are either unable or unwilling to be as affective as they could be.
You can take my comments anyway you like, or don’t. You can read as much or as little into them as you desire. However, by saying things like “I really hope Scott ignores your comment” only highlights the fact that the whole “clique” thing that Y33TREKker mentioned is still here. You are attempting to make more out of a comment than there is. If all you have to add to the conversation is personal attacks, and invitations for others to do the same, then please refrain from commenting. The whole “clique” things really has to stop, and you’re not helping.
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VX Status: Running Great! Build is coming along nicely...
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Oh the exuberance of the youthful and un-informed.
Go for your life man, but the Trekkie side of the team can be very lonely.
PK
Now that food has replaced sex in my life -
I can't even get into my own pants!!
Super VXer
Speaking of uninformed...
But hey, go for YOUR life PK (which is apparently partly based on the usage of juvenile nicknames intended to imitate maturity?). Wow, you really got me with that one.
Super VXer
Hahaha!
Super VXer
Who says this site isn't informative...
Last edited by Y33TREKker : 10/16/2017 at 07:57 AM
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89Vette, you bring up a lot of valid points. When I first found this forum, it was a ghost town, so I starting posting anyway. I started the build log mainly for myself and I have received more feedback that I ever thought I would. I honestly didn’t (and still don’t) know if this will be around in the future. It’s a niche market to be sure. One that seems to be getting smaller everyday. There have been more VX’s offered for sale in the last few months than I have ever seen. Even the unicorn is for sale. In a way that makes a site like this one even more important, but it can also make it irrelevant if it cannot be funded or maintained with any level of consistency.
As for messaging on a forum, I am no expert on forum software, but I do know that another site I visit has both messaging and chat as well as a member map. Just google Overland Bound dot com and you will see what I am talking about. The downside is that it seems to require a LOT of maintaining to keep it working well, and the page load times leave a lot to be desired. Again, I am no web designer, but I do know it is possible.
Super VXer
Well ... that escalated quickly ...
Super VXer
IT'S WORKING!! Now I'm checking the site every few hours....
"The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair."
-Douglas Adams, Mostly Harmless
Super VXer
This site is much more useful and provides a better avenue for discussion than the linear facebook page. What is missing though are the invaluable "how to's" and the built up knowledge base that used to be available previously. If they can be made available again, and it remains available without issues, this forum will once again attract members. With the return of members, it can again be the place for all things VX.
Super VXer
Seriously, I don't remember any arguments (with you recently) or participating in any OTHER "debates non-related to VX ownership" FOR YEARS. Between others, arguments cause me to "gloss over reading entire posts". I agree with your plea for civility/decorum and avoid confrontation. (I just disagreed with WHERE to post the suggestion). Furthermore, I agree needless confrontation is unproductive, lacks value, and tends to drive readers away. That said, especially in car forums, "opinions" are normal. How well things are organized and accessible makes the bigger difference. This forum is unique in the fewer number of owners due to the limited production. Besides information, the size of the user community obviously plays the biggest role...which is the point of this thread.
FWIW, I also remember posting something in the "Site Questions & Problems" forum over a year ago. It NEVER received a reply. I notice the question is gone (archive rules)? The perception is a lack of transparency and/or help to the user community. Like other topics, problems/questions don't seem helpful to archive. People can easily find an answer to a problem in a forum specifically designed for that purpose.
When you combined 1yr archival with the low number of posts per year, you maximize the "skeletal" perception of the forum.
Last edited by 89Vette : 10/18/2017 at 06:43 PM
2001 Ebony VX and 1989 Custom 383 Corvette
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The "discussion" I was referring to regarding how the clique here at the time was labeling current and new members "freeloaders", "deadbeats", etc while simultaneously (and ironically) lobbying-for/promoting monetary site-donations occurred awhile back.
I had simply questioned how someone new to the site at the time asking for specific information about a VX being met with "Use the search function, that'll be $20" was as productive, welcoming, or conducive to recruiting new monetary and informational contributors to the site as they apparently believed it was. Of course, after having it pointed out like that, the members in question THEN started actually answering the questions WHILE suggesting the search function and asking for site donations, but that's not what was happening beforehand. And I understand how you may not remember participating at that time, but I wouldn't call jumping on the bandwagon to take a few pot shots at me because it was easy to do when so many others were doing it participating anyway, but I've learned to ignore it so no big deal, especially since it's been made obvious once again in this thread that it's somewhat knee-jerk with some people even though they weren't even here at the time.
But the push-back was simply another ironic part of that entire fiasco. There I was "pissing so many people off" by suggesting that name-calling by a mob-like group of forum members was not necessarily the best way of achieving the monetary site donation goal they were promoting...or...the appearance that the site was ACTUALLY as welcoming as some had convinced themselves that it was.....and yet it's obvious that at least one of the members who was practically living on the site and doing those things on a daily basis is STILL of the opinion they were doing nothing to be called out on as questionable.
So, when logic failed and it seemed as if $$$ was all that some understood, I tried approaching the matter from another objective and more democratic direction by suggesting that site donation could be pro-rated directly proportionally to site participation based on post count. After all, why would it be fair for someone who posted maybe once or twice a week to be expected to pay the same amount to participate on the site as someone who posted 10 or 20 times a DAY? When viewed that way, the once or twice a week poster would basically be subsidizing the habits of the 10 or 20 times a day poster. Well I'll give you three guesses as to how that suggestion was met with the main site dwellers....and the first two guesses don't count.
After that, it became a condescending free-for-all from the clique so what else could a reasonable person be expected to do except just sit back, ignore it, and let that kind of forum mentality take the site where it would....and the rest as they say...is history.
Not knowing what happened to the How-To information that used to be accessible on the site, it's impossible to comment on its fate, but the possibility that it's still archived somewhere would be best case scenario for those who may need such information.
Super VXer
I think it's likely I didn't participate because I don't remember ANY of the explanation to which you refer. If someone pointed me to a post and said "Thanks. That'll be $20, I'd assume they were joking." OTOH, if it was something easy to find, I'd take the hint and look harder next time. (Ironically, that's what this site has turned into because of the low participation and difficulty finding older threads. UNLESS, that is, they fixed all the link problems! :-) ) In other words, I'm saying I look pretty hard now AND rarely ask questions OR for referals (to posts) because the odds of getting a reasonably quick response are so low.
If anything, mostly I answer a question/two here or there as someone knowing lots about cars.
It doesn't help ANY forum that Photobucket crapped on ALL their free members...resulting in killed links and missing pictures everywhere you turn (on the net). Talk about burning my chaps!
arcobarco (10/26/2017)
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Easy to suggest based on theory, but as a lot of us know at this point, the VX has a lot of unique issues that a person would NEVER find unless they were ALREADY familiar with VX terminology. So a "the search function is your friend" coupled with a request for a site donation conjured at best a non-answer, chicken-or-the-egg scenario. Why you don't remember participating will simply remain a mystery then.
I've always been the same regarding offering assistance here, basing my answers on a combination of knowing about cars and the experience I've personally acquired working on my own VX. One would think that would have been enough on a vehicle related message board, but I found that never seemed to be enough here for SOME.
Super VXer
Yeah...I think we talked about the broken links that started after the "upgrade".
I dunno....It seems like a demonstration of the power of links would be appropriate here! (Just in case you have me confused with someone else!)
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