I didn't intend to thread jack, and I wouldn't classify this as an argument... just an discussion about the evils of religions' members. The subject is one that I care deeply about, and it is BECAUSE of the kind soul murdered that I had to share those feelings. I am glad to have met so many different and cool people through this forum (Sue being one of the nicest), and the subject hits harder when it hits so close. You are right though... I am done.