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    Considering a VX ...

    Hello all,

    I suppose I should start with, I do not own a VX. I didn't even know such a think existed until about 3 weeks ago. I seen a yellow one parked at a pump in Colorado Springs, CO. Curious I drove over to check it out. All I could see (it was dark) was that it was an Isuzu of some kind. I really liked it and to be honest, I didn't think much about it. Then a couple days ago there was a Reddit post about one. I knew it was the same vehicle, so scanning the comments I found the name Vehicross. I had something to google, and I have been, a lot. I'm not sure why, but I find I cannot get enough information about this vehicle, I think it is becoming a bot of an obsession.

    I should also mention that my daily driver is a 2013 Tacoma 4WD, which I love. However, a few friends and I have decided to try our hand at "Overlanding". We are currently planning a very long trip to Alaska (June-2016) then follow the Pan-American to at least the Mexico border for our first major trip. The eventual goal is to complete the entire highway within 10 years.

    I had been assuming that I would use my Tacoma for the trip. After seeing the VX for the time, I am no longer sure about that. There is still a lot to learn about this vehicle, and I may not even end up buying one. What this does offer over the Tacoma (at least initially) is a lower cost platform to start with, leaving more room in the budget for other things. The VX is currently the strongest competitor for using on the trip besides the Tacoma. As with any such adventure, money will be the key factor, but there are others (off-road capabilities, storage space, reliability, etc...)

    Anyway, I wanted to introduce myself and it didn't feel right to do so in the normal thread as I do not (or may not) own a VX. I will probably have a lot of questions though. I look forward to learning as much as I can.

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    Good timing!...check this thread from today as well


    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...threadid=26406

    The "BIG" questionnaire that Vendetta linked to in the above thread is a great check list.

    If you are concerned at all about MPG for this big trip...

    ....the VX isnt great, 18-20 ish MPG stock depending on your right foot!


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    Put a smiley after you say that Bub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoFotoz View Post
    ....the VX isnt great, 18-20 ish MPG stock depending on your right foot!


    Jo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
    Stock is for soup.
    -V
    Hence your assless chaps???

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoFotoz View Post
    ....the VX isnt great, 18-20 ish MPG stock depending on your right foot!
    I know that Isuzu makes a fairly reliable turbo diesel that is nearly all mechanical. I am thinking if I get one with a bad engine I could just do a swap, though I haven't yet figured out if that will affect the TOD system. The (limited) info I was able to find on it suggests it should bolt directly to the transmission, but it doesn't really talk about any other issues, such as electrical connections.

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    the vx is a vary capable vehicle. they are reliable as long as you take the oil consumption issue. not hard, its an easy fix. my vx does not use up oil. i use BG 109 and BG MOA also use mobile one full synthetic. and i also do a BG induction clean two times a year. however you have to get creative with storage. if you are planning on lifting the vx you could use the rear tire area for storage. if you ever want to check out mine im in Denver.

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    Welcome to the club! Just down South a bit from me.

    Let me just say, I wouldn't consider the VX a strong candidate for overlanding. The VX is super tough, off-road capable and reliable BUT lacks one thing, SPACE. While the 91" wheel base makes the VX nimble off road and the sloped sides add a unique look, they both cut into the cargo capacity that's essential for long overlanding trips. Sure, you can get around this by building a rugged trailer or adding a big basket to the top but it can't compare to a pickup.

    That's why I wouldn't pick a VX as a strong outlander... however I would choose a VX over a Tacoma (and most other vehicles) any day of the week. I owned a newer Tundra and the VX before I bought a house. I had to downsize to save some extra money and chose to sell my amazing, comfortable, and practical Tundra instead of the VX. I miss that Tundra but would make the same choice 100% of the time. Nothing beats the cool factor of driving a VX even if there is some obvious trade-offs. So, you might decide it’s worth getting a VX just to own one and still use the Tacoma for the overlanding trip.

    Good luck with the research and decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tom4bren View Post
    Hence your assless chaps???
    Hey don't be hatin' on the culinary skilz! Everyone knows that men make better chefs.

    Byeeee! (LOL)
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    Tacoma = overall better overland experience. VX = better pics. Choose wisely.

    -V

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8695Beaters View Post
    Anyway, my question is: what are the trouble spots I should look out for?
    Quote Originally Posted by Otwobme View Post
    they are reliable as long as you take the oil consumption issue. not hard, its an easy fix
    ^^^This is EXACTLY what I meant when I was asking about "are there any trouble spots I should look out for?" Losing oil would be a concern! What is the oil consumption issue and what is the fix?

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    Depending on your VX

    Quote Originally Posted by 8695Beaters View Post
    ^^^This is EXACTLY what I meant when I was asking about "are there any trouble spots I should look out for?" Losing oil would be a concern! What is the oil consumption issue and what is the fix?
    Many of them use up oil. Some do not. The solution is check oil when you fill up and top it off if it low.
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    The oil consumption issue, as others have said, is hit or miss. Some VX's burn a LOT others don't burn any. My VX used to burn 3/4 or a quart of oil every +/-350 miles. I say "used to" because I had to replace my engine at about 130k miles, but not because it starved itself of oil. Like just about everyone here I would check my oil at EVERY gas fill up and top it off as needed. I ended up burning a couple of valves in cylinder three of my old engine which is why I had to replace it.

    The leading theory on the oil consumption is that in the original 3.5L engines Isuzu did not drill enough/ large enough oil drain back holes in the pistons so the oil couldn't get back into the engine on the piston down stroke and would just get burned up during the combustion stroke. Crazy thing is that, to my knowledge, none of us see the tell tale blue smoke of an oil burning engine (or get the burned oil smell for that matter).

    The fix for all of this, IF your VX is burning oil, is to either replace the engine with a new 3.5L engine which has bigger/more oil drain back holes drilled in the pistons, tear down your existing (or a used) 3.5L engine and drill the holes in the pistons yourself, install a 3.2L engine (used or otherwise), or do a complete engine swap for something else (diesel, V8, etc.).
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    From what I have found online, most of the vehicles that are still running have a LOT of miles. So an engine rebuild/replace would probably have been added to the cost of buying one anyway (if not right away, soon after purchase). So really it depends on budget. Since I won't need to drive it right away, I can start in the motor/drivetrain from the beginning.

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    For long overlanding treks my concern would be parts availability. Some parts are getting very hard to find for the VX. Pretty much every parts store anywhere on this continent carry parts for a Tacoma.
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