Interesting oil consumption issue

[tom4bren]

I might start with this one to test out on the Amigo before I copy over to the Vehicri:

http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/9291218/00031/

I'm starting to like Ldubs approach with an oil accumulation can more & more though. It looks like this might get messy if too much oil is present with the fumes.

Also keep in mind that this modification is slightly illegal. IIRC, it's been required since the 60's to NOT vent the crankcase to the atmosphere. Those gasses are required to be incinerated.

One thing I'll need to check when we pull the valve covers off of Boy's VX is for a baffle under the PCV. There's supposed to be one to prevent the oil from splashing into the PCV.

Mebbe dis one:

http://www.s2carbonworks.com/mfbialoilcac.html

[MSHardeman]

Tom,
I have been tearing down my old engine in my garage and I would be happy to take any pictures of anything that you would like to see so you don't have to rip into anything of yours. I seem to remember seeing baffles under both valve covers, but my memory ain't what it used to be.

Let me know and I'll snap away (that goes for anyone else too).

P.S. - pulling the driver side valve cover is a MAJOR PITA!! The valve cover fastener that is on the bottom closest to the fire wall requires VERY small hands or some serious ingenuity and tool creation to get at it at all, much less actually remove it. I have a tool that I bought at Lowe's which ended up working fairly well, but I'll have to take pictures of that too because I can't remember what it's called. The other thing; in order to get the driver side valve cover back on without twisting the gasket like a pretzel I actually had to remove the driver side engine hoist point to get enough room to work. Iffn' you don't HAVE to remove the valve cover DON'T.

[tom4bren]

Tom,
I have been tearing down my old engine in my garage and I would be happy to take any pictures of anything that you would like to see so you don't have to rip into anything of yours. I seem to remember seeing baffles under both valve covers, but my memory ain't what it used to be.

Let me know and I'll snap away (that goes for anyone else too).

P.S. - pulling the driver side valve cover is a MAJOR PITA!! The valve cover fastener that is on the bottom closest to the fire wall requires VERY small hands or some serious ingenuity and tool creation to get at it at all, much less actually remove it. I have a tool that I bought at Lowe's which ended up working fairly well, but I'll have to take pictures of that too because I can't remember what it's called. The other thing; in order to get the driver side valve cover back on without twisting the gasket like a pretzel I actually had to remove the driver side engine hoist point to get enough room to work. Iffn' you don't HAVE to remove the valve cover DON'T.

We're doing head gaskets so it hasta be done. Son is a mechanic & he's helping to make sure Dad doesn't FUBAR the whole thing.

[tom4bren]

Just ordered a oil catch can off ebay for $16. Hope it wasn't a waste of money. I'll let y'all know how it works out on the Amigo. If it's worth it, I'll be adding to the VehiCri too.

& yes Sue, you can get it in PURPLE ... but not in pink ... I went conservative though & got black.

[tom4bren]

Catch can arrived over the weekend.

It's pretty good for what I paid for it ... but ... I can see now where the big price break comes in. This one has no baffle screens in it. They are supposed to keep the liguid oil from entering the combustion chamber. With the length of hoses I installed, the screens aren't necessary. I think most/all of the liquids will condense on the inside of the hoses and either drip back into the valve covers or into the catch can.

I bolted it to the side of the airbox so I had to use more tubing than what came with the kit but it's out of the way and convenient for emptying if/when needed.

BTW, I looked on the inside of the valve cover that we removed from Boy's Ebony. There is a plate that runs the entire length of the valve cover under the PCV port. That's a good thang/bad thang. The good thing is that there is no oil splashing up into the PCV from the lifters. The bad thing is that it is a huge flat, level surface area to accumulate gunk which could be picked up into the PCV. It's a poor design but not worth the trouble of modifying since the catch can is such an easy/cheap alternative.

[blacksambo]

Catch can arrived over the weekend.

It's pretty good for what I paid for it ... but ... I can see now where the big price break comes in. This one has no baffle screens in it. They are supposed to keep the liguid oil from entering the combustion chamber. With the length of hoses I installed, the screens aren't necessary. I think most/all of the liquids will condense on the inside of the hoses and either drip back into the valve covers or into the catch can.

I bolted it to the side of the airbox so I had to use more tubing than what came with the kit but it's out of the way and convenient for emptying if/when needed.

BTW, I looked on the inside of the valve cover that we removed from Boy's Ebony. There is a plate that runs the entire length of the valve cover under the PCV port. That's a good thang/bad thang. The good thing is that there is no oil splashing up into the PCV from the lifters. The bad thing is that it is a huge flat, level surface area to accumulate gunk which could be picked up into the PCV. It's a poor design but not worth the trouble of modifying since the catch can is such an easy/cheap alternative.

Let us know how it works.

[tom4bren]

Let us know how it works.

Day one = no oil consumption

I'll keep an eye on things this week & let you know if I need to add any oil. I was using about a quart a week (VERY irregular consumption though). Only time will tell. Happy to keep you posted though since ifn it works, it'll be replicated onto both VehiCri.

[VX KAT]

Just ordered a oil catch can off ebay for $16. Hope it wasn't a waste of money. I'll let y'all know how it works out on the Amigo. If it's worth it, I'll be adding to the VehiCri too.

& yes Sue, you can get it in PURPLE ... but not in pink ... I went conservative though & got black.

haven't kept up on this thread, so missed your post brutter T….but, funny you should mention this as I've had it on my ebay "watch list" for about a year now, not quite knowing what to do with it, or exactly how it worked.

I recall Dub had a catch canister, but since my consumption is so minimal, and only on prolonged highway driving,
I thought it may be kind of useless….oh wait, I have MANY USELESS MODS, that shouldn't deter me!
And it will MATCH my brake calipers - how kool is that!! - - -

Maybe we can make it the 2014 Moab install project on me ride!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/221061709918...84.m1438.l2649

[tom4bren]

Maybe we can make it the 2014 Moab install project on me ride!

Easy Peezy install. Took all of ... 15 minutes (not counting the trip to parts store for a replacement PCV grommet & extra hose. I think it took me more time to decide where to mount it than it did to install it.

I'd say that probably 90% of peeps that install them do it just for the bling in their engine compartment (as opposed to 'needing' it). Most of the advertisement hype is just that ... hype. If you need to get rid of the PCV though, it's a good option.