my starter has been going out on my vx - have to take the friggin exhaust off to get to the damn thing p.i.t.a. - in 9 months ive put over $2k into my proton (bought it for 6k) but when i look at my other options in that price range even after all the fixin i still want to keep my vx - hard to find any decent used car 13 years old for less than 10k that doesnt need a few grand in repairs - ...then again if it wasnt for this site and all the help and suggestions of its members i probably would have sold it long ago