Please please please. I would so much appreciate all of the above stated workshop and help getting my rough ride in good standing with the rest of y'all!!! I still think my idea of the Delaware Watergap where all three states meet would be a great idea. And for us New Yorkers we could sneak into New Jersey and fill up our gas hogs for the trekback :-) Anyhoot Nov 4 sounds good for me and im in no matter where it's decided to meet as long as it's under 2 hour ride!