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    Quote Originally Posted by VX KAT View Post
    Many of us have cut the rear bump stops in half to reduce that hard slamming effect on rough roads, expansion joints in the road, potholes, etc... Takes it from about 1/2" clearance to about 4"....dramatically improved the slamming. Can always get a set from a salvage yard if you want to go back to stock. They're also still available new from Isuzu, about $45 each.

    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ight=bump+stop


    http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ght=bump+stops


    http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ight=bumpstops


    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...spring+helpers
    Thanks Kat for getting back to me!! Nah, I removed my rear bump stops altogether when I did my 3 inch lift. Can't see how they can work when they limit the spring travel. Much better ride but still nothing to brag about. I think a lot of the harshness on pavement and off-road comes from the low profile tires, so they're going to be replaced by 15 inch wheels and 31 inch tires.
    My earlier reference to cutting and rewelding was the front upper A-Arm bump stop. There's an article in here about moving the ball joint to the underside of the A-Arm to increase space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VXorado View Post
    http://www.planetisuzoo.com/articles...p/Spacer_Howto

    caused too much positive camber on my VX...
    Does the ball joint "flip" cause any change in suspension height? If you have done this, was there any problems with camber readjustment. I have a 3 inch lift so, just asking.

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    Maddawg, the balljoint flip does not add any lift nor does it allow more travel. It makes lifted vx's easier to align.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triathlete View Post
    Maddawg, the balljoint flip does not add any lift nor does it allow more travel. It makes lifted vx's easier to align.
    My bad. I meant more space between the upper A-Arm and its stop. Space not travel. It does, doesn't it?

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    It MIGHT net you 1/8 of an inch but thats about it (I have mine flipped).
    You can buy low profile bump stops for the front. I believe "energy" makes them. There are several people on here that have them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triathlete View Post
    It MIGHT net you 1/8 of an inch but thats about it (I have mine flipped).
    You can buy low profile bump stops for the front. I believe "energy" makes them. There are several people on here that have them.
    Thanks Triathlete, I already have the urethane reduced height stops your talking about. Yep, I measured the lug thickness of the ball joint base and your right, its about 5/16 of an inch. There was some mention in the linked article above about adding a spacer as well as "flipping" the ball joint to gain additional clearance. I'm afraid that might make adjusting the camber more difficult though as it may cause the adjustment to move too far into the negative range.

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    Well after spending a great deal of money, mostly due to rusted bolts, I got my VX back from the shop. It turns out that I made a very bad assumption and didn't double check. The upper ball joints will work with Rodeo, Trooper and VehiCross but the lower ball joints do not. I am sure that most of you already know that but that was causing the extreme negative camber on the front end. Those got changed out but in order to re-align the front end the two bolts that allow the adjustment of the upper control arm were nearly welded on with rust. I had them replace cotrol arm bushings since they were doing the rest of the work, that was a big mistake because it took a tech two and one half days to get them loose. The front end is almost completely new at this point. The other issue that occurred is while they were trying to set the toe-in one of the tie rods broke because of rust. So any of the new members that want to swap parts between the VehiCross and other vehicles, check first to make sure they are, in fact, inter-changable.
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    Hmmm, let me see, I think I got that? The upper ball joints of a VehiCross can be replaced with Rodeo and Trooper. But not the lower. Vehicross ball joints only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddawg View Post
    Hmmm, let me see, I think I got that? The upper ball joints of a VehiCross can be replaced with Rodeo and Trooper. But not the lower. Vehicross ball joints only?
    The lower ball joints are a little longer from the mounting holes out to the joint. They have a different part number, hence feeling kind of dumb. The uppers are the same part number.

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    Ok, thanks Mike!

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    Can you tell me what part number the lower ball joints that WORK are? I have been sitting on a set of uppers and lowers and looked at doing them yesterday only to realize that the lowers I have are the shorter trooper ones that would angle the knuckle in at the bottom. I need to order some of the proper ones so I can get this knocked out.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by samneil2000 View Post
    Can you tell me what part number the lower ball joints that WORK are? I have been sitting on a set of uppers and lowers and looked at doing them yesterday only to realize that the lowers I have are the shorter trooper ones that would angle the knuckle in at the bottom. I need to order some of the proper ones so I can get this knocked out.
    Thanks

    From what VX Mile High said above, they are Isuzu ball joints on the lower. I think you will have to contact Isuzu parts for the number.

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    The part number that I have is for Beck/Arnley is 101-4717 Lower Ball Joint. From what I was told MOOG does not carry a lower ball joint for the VehiCross. You do not want to use the lower ball joints from a Rodeo, Trooper or Honda Passport. Those three vehicles use the same lower ball joint.

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    Just an update about all of the work that I have done on my VX. I was finally able to drive more than a block last night. I drives great and has a fair amount of pick-up. I really like how it feels and drives. Now, I have many other little jobs to get it close to perfect. I had not tried the CD player until last night and I got an ERROR 1 when I put a disc in. If I remember what I have read this is pretty common error. I will do some searches and see what more I can find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VX MileHigh View Post
    Just an update about all of the work that I have done on my VX. I was finally able to drive more than a block last night. I drives great and has a fair amount of pick-up. I really like how it feels and drives. Now, I have many other little jobs to get it close to perfect. I had not tried the CD player until last night and I got an ERROR 1 when I put a disc in. If I remember what I have read this is pretty common error. I will do some searches and see what more I can find out.
    Trash the CD player....it's toast, eats discs and removing it gives you a nice cubby area (buy a DIN that fits). Several original owners had it replaced under warranty and even the 2nd unit crapped out....not worth wasting a penny on or a minute of time.
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