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    Another weekend working on my VX. When I replaced the ball joints and dropped it back down I discovered that I had a huge amount of negative camber. I spent most of this past weekend trying to remove the bolts from the upper control arm to remove shims and get rid of the negative camber. I was using a 25" breaker bar and I could get the bolts to break free, I could not get the bolts to come out. I tried using my impact wrench and that was about useless. I did get a few other things done that I needed to. I got the bumper brackets off and I have nearly gotten the hole in the front cladding done, I have to wet sand and put the final coat of bumper paint on it. I got the rear shocks installed and have the hood insert off, sanded, primed and painted. It needs a wet sand and a final coat of black satin paint. As I was taking the insert off, three of the studs broke off. I took the "daisies" off drilled out the stub and put news one. I am going to have the VX towed to the shop to have the alignment done because I wore myself out and smashed a couple of fingers in the process and without a bigger impact wrench I am not going to get the bolts out. The saga continues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VX MileHigh View Post
    I am going to have the VX towed to the shop to have the alignment done because I wore myself out and smashed a couple of fingers in the process and without a bigger impact wrench I am not going to get the bolts out. The saga continues.
    I would flip the upper ball joints before getting the alignment. The flip causes positive camber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VXorado View Post
    I would flip the upper ball joints before getting the alignment. The flip causes positive camber.
    what do you mean by flip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by catskilljay View Post
    what do you mean by flip?
    http://www.planetisuzoo.com/articles...p/Spacer_Howto

    caused too much positive camber on my VX...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VXorado View Post
    http://www.planetisuzoo.com/articles...p/Spacer_Howto

    caused too much positive camber on my VX...
    Nice article. I was wondering how to get around the close to nothing clearance with the bump stop. I had considered removing and re-welding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddawg View Post
    Nice article. I was wondering how to get around the close to nothing clearance with the bump stop. I had considered removing and re-welding.
    Many of us have cut the rear bump stops in half to reduce that hard slamming effect on rough roads, expansion joints in the road, potholes, etc... Takes it from about 1/2" clearance to about 4"....dramatically improved the slamming. Can always get a set from a salvage yard if you want to go back to stock. They're also still available new from Isuzu, about $45 each.

    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ight=bump+stop


    http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ght=bump+stops


    http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ight=bumpstops


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    Quote Originally Posted by VX KAT View Post
    Many of us have cut the rear bump stops in half to reduce that hard slamming effect on rough roads, expansion joints in the road, potholes, etc... Takes it from about 1/2" clearance to about 4"....dramatically improved the slamming. Can always get a set from a salvage yard if you want to go back to stock. They're also still available new from Isuzu, about $45 each.

    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ight=bump+stop


    http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ght=bump+stops


    http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...ight=bumpstops


    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...spring+helpers
    Thanks Kat for getting back to me!! Nah, I removed my rear bump stops altogether when I did my 3 inch lift. Can't see how they can work when they limit the spring travel. Much better ride but still nothing to brag about. I think a lot of the harshness on pavement and off-road comes from the low profile tires, so they're going to be replaced by 15 inch wheels and 31 inch tires.
    My earlier reference to cutting and rewelding was the front upper A-Arm bump stop. There's an article in here about moving the ball joint to the underside of the A-Arm to increase space.
    Last edited by Maddawg : 09/13/2012 at 05:14 PM

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    Well after spending a great deal of money, mostly due to rusted bolts, I got my VX back from the shop. It turns out that I made a very bad assumption and didn't double check. The upper ball joints will work with Rodeo, Trooper and VehiCross but the lower ball joints do not. I am sure that most of you already know that but that was causing the extreme negative camber on the front end. Those got changed out but in order to re-align the front end the two bolts that allow the adjustment of the upper control arm were nearly welded on with rust. I had them replace cotrol arm bushings since they were doing the rest of the work, that was a big mistake because it took a tech two and one half days to get them loose. The front end is almost completely new at this point. The other issue that occurred is while they were trying to set the toe-in one of the tie rods broke because of rust. So any of the new members that want to swap parts between the VehiCross and other vehicles, check first to make sure they are, in fact, inter-changable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VXorado View Post
    http://www.planetisuzoo.com/articles...p/Spacer_Howto

    caused too much positive camber on my VX...
    Does the ball joint "flip" cause any change in suspension height? If you have done this, was there any problems with camber readjustment. I have a 3 inch lift so, just asking.

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