Back In The Day versus Now...

[Prcdpnknova]

Who's goating!? Can I get some of that fancy unpasteurized milk the feds wanna ban? I hear that stuff ain't half ba-aaaa-aaaa-aaaaaaaad.

[Scott Larson]

No you can't have any, I need it to make goat cheese for my lefsa...it's a Norwegian thing, ya know?

[89Vette]

When the object of one's goading get's old and cranky, you "goat"!



Now...If only you put as much constructive thoughts into these kinds of topics....You sure spend a lot of time TRYING to be cute.

Good luck with that edjumakaashun!

[VX KAT]

Or maybe you were just "goated", raced any GTO's lately??

wonder if anybody under 30-35 got this??

No you can't have any, I need it to make goat cheese for my lefsa...it's a Norwegian thing, ya know?

lefsa!! betcha didn't know my last name ends in STROM!

[tom4bren]

... as soon as I get the next batch of "dub decoder rings" outta the molds, you KNOW who I'm gonna send em' to......

Not needed. I even figured out your instructions for cutting compound angles on crown moulding without one

Dub: Cut it upside down

t4b: WTF???

Dub: It works ... just try it.

t4b: OK, ifn you can build coffins for baby dolls, you must know what you're talkin-bout!!!

Dang if he didn't know what he was talkin-bout (I only messed up one of the 6 corners that I cut).

[bssage]

Alot of us old timers can remember when 60's and early 70's muscle cars were selling for next to nothing, much like our beloved VX's today. I can recall when I could have bought a '69 Shelby GT 350 in good shape for $2500 bucks all day long and man do I regret not knowing what the future held in store back then. I keep looking now for the next "affordable future collector car" and I really think the VX is just such a vehicle. I had a '81 Ford EXP way back when and I wonder where the value of that car will end up in the future. I still have a '69 Bronco Sport in rust-free condition and I have seen where the value of that truck has gone. It's a gamble, you buy a unique or obscure car cuz you like it and the price is right and you hope that the next generation will appreciate it and drive the value up. I realize that most people on this forum use their VX's as everyday transport, but I wonder how many secretly hope that the value of these little beasts someday soon goes through the roof...just the ramblings of an old duffers mind.

Back to the OP. What I think is lost on a lot of people who see the headlines or watch fifteen minutes of the Barron's Auto Action. Most if not all of the vehicles breaking records are pedigreed. They are 1st, 2nd or 6th off the line. The owners are pedigreed OCD car guys. And the linage of owners are pedigreed. They store and car for these cars in a very specific manner. It generally not just some guy who thought it would be a good Idea to buy one and park it. Or someone who bought a low mileage unit and restored it. When you are in the market for this level collected car. OCD is for beginners. Of course there are exceptions to every rule. But those are few and far between.

I believe the VX's for sale in the high end of the bracket need be pedigreed to some extent. If I were paying for example 10k for one with low mileage. I would expect records of service, Branded oil changes ect. That is barely the tip of the iceberg for the Barron's buyer.

[evillecutter]

like i said before (i think it was my first thread i ever made on here): with the low number of vx's left we COULD form a union and charge whatever we want for them - but like i was told before: it would be like herding cats

the reason old muscle cars are worth a ton now (i sold a 68 firebird with 52k original miles on it in awesome shape before i bought the vx) is because everyone tore the crap out of them, switched the motors/trans/everything else, and very few people bought the high output models to begin with: i.e. low numbers = high value... IF the car is cool - i dont think there are very many yugos left but who cares?

my firebird was a lower model 350 automatic with a vinly hardtop (one of the most common for that year) - everyone wanted a 350 h.o. or the 400 models but they are all gone now so eventually the value of mine went up

being stock with all original parts was what made it much more rare and valuable

[Scott Larson]

Good points on all but one, "pedigreed owners"? Unless you're talking about a person of some fame or notoriety, I don't understand that point. Sure, If Carroll Shelby or Dan Gurney owned said muscle car the value would increase exponentially as was witnessed when Carroll's personal Shelby Cobra sold at auction for FIVE MILLION DOLLARS! Those circumstances are extremely rare and have little bearing on the value of the remaining masses of muscle cars. Originality, options list, overall condition and even color are all important when it comes to the value of the vast amount of muscle cars bought and sold.

[bssage]

By pedigreed owners I mean known collectors. people who's reputation has some value in the rare car world. Similar to what I mentioned in my "Want to buy" post. That I would rather pay a little more from someone at this site. Where I can evaluate their post and history to make assumptions on the care of the car. Would you rather buy a gun at a pawn shop or a gunsmith. Most serious collectors have some knowledge of the others within their world. This speaks to storage, Care, or whether the are likely to use a marker pen to cover small scratches or to fix professionally.

While we all desire that 66 Shelby that grandma has covered in the barn since her son died in the war. And she just wants to clean the barn. Those stories are extremely rare..

My dad over the years has used these perceptions as a selling point (Incorrectly I might add) "This vehicle was owned by the preacher of a church", or someone else in a position of respect. Of course to you and I know that does not mean jack. But there are applications that it would.

[Scott Larson]

Gotcha, now it all makes sense. Sometimes I just need 'splainin'...

[Scott Larson]

wonder if anybody under 30-35 got this??




lefsa!! betcha didn't know my last name ends in STROM!

From one "old" Norský to another, Hyggelig å møte deg Sue Strom!

[don moore]

my first was a 65 rambler marlin..got it used for 500. now it worth around 500. lol