Petersen Visit update...not lookin' good

[Y33TREKker]

Treky, I am so glad that your line of thought makes so much "cents" to you, but your logic is still completely flawed...

Your opinion. And is it possible you've formed that opinion simply because it's not the same logic as yours?

...and for those of us that do not share in your jaded agenda of feeling self righteous in our helping of others on this site, it still will not help in keeping this site up and running. You do realize that no matter how many helpful words you type on this site you still are in NO WAY contributing to paying for the necessary costs incurred to keep this site running?

You may want to refer to Scott's original mandate where he himself has always said that donation for this website is entirely voluntary. And like I mentioned to Dub, "a jaded agenda of feeling self-righteous" is your opinion of me, not my opinion of myself. You say there are those who do not share in my opinion, but there are those who do not share in yours either. You can't have it both ways. And besides, I've witnessed it myself that some of the help I've offered in the past has resulted in other members contributing to the site for the help they received, so that is in actuality ONE WAY my efforts have contributed to keeping this site running = your logic = flawed.

...You might be the first person I have met on here that finds their own help to others so valuable that you will put a monetary value on it and evidently feel better about yourself not actually sharing in the real monetary costs of this site...

I said I "could" have charged other members for my help, I didn't say I actually did, and I've never even suggested that anyone else be obliged to donate to the site because of the help I've offered...unlike "those of you" I could mention...

...Most people that have helped me on this site (in reply to a thank you) simply say something along the lines of well this site has helped me out countless times as well. But from your last post it is clear you do not take that stance, but see your helping of others as a payment to the site, haha, wow you feel like your input is so valuable you do not need to share in the actual real monetary support of the running of this site?...

You're starting to repeat yourself. Saying something over and over again doesn't make it any truer than it was the first time you said it.

...Good to know, that helps me get your "gist" a lot better. But once again I am REALLY glad most people do not agree with your line of thinking because then you and everyone else would not have a VX.info to go to at all....

Maybe, maybe not. (and it's still debatable whether you in fact ARE getting the gist better, because your own comments continue to make that remain doubtful.

...You do realize that everyone you are bickering against here actually is sharing in the monetary support of this site? So without us sharing in paying for everyone's opportunity to post, you would not be able to feel so self righteous in supporting the site by your "helpful posts" that obviously have monetary value in your mind?

Once again, I'm not the one bickering here, as I've already explained. Given your comments though, it's starting to seem apparent that a self-righteous attitude can in fact be purchased here for the right price.

...If in the future you see somehow you could help me out on an issue I would actually prefer if you instead took whatever value you evidently place on that help you could give me and instead gave that figure (whatever your mind has decided it to be) and give that to the site in the form of an actual monetary figure. So in that scenario you would be helping the entire site share in the monetary demands of keeping this site up and running instead of just helping me out on an issue that I can probably find help from someone else free of intelectual charge :-)

You really need to pick an intellectual argument and stick with it. You've already said yourself quite a few times that in your opinion my help isn't really worth anything, so it remains debatable who among us is expressing the flawed logic.

Since YOU don't seem to place any value on my help though, I'm happy to oblige in not offering it to YOU any more...(and all because someone didn't "get" my joke in this thread). I suppose you'll come up with some logic for that in there somewhere, but it comes across as more of a "cut off your nose to spite your face" kind of thing to me. Then again, what do I know...

[LittleBeast]

"Then again, what do I know..." -y33trekKER

Best question I have seen you ask, good job, when you come up with something let me know! :-)

[Y33TREKker]

Best question I have seen you ask, good job, when you come up with something let me know! :-)

Further proof that you continue to not get (purposefully?) the "gist" of my comments (although that one was admittedly rhetorical, so I'll cut you some slack for not being able to easily figure it out).

But since you seem to need others to actually spell out what they're expressing, and since you apparently didn't find what's been the main issue in this thread (some of Petersons' specific fees) in any way crazy, here's one for you.

Since I've apparently been giving it away for nothing, I now plan to start charging a viewing fee for anyone who wants to look at my VX. Don't worry though, I'll give a price break on my fees to any members of the VX family here on this site, and all fees paid by said VX.info family members will go directly to this site.

Both issues addressed. Those of you apparently only too eager to pay to see VX's, and only too eager to see others subsidize something that you obviously spend WAAAY more time visiting (mainly to waste time on) than those you try to pressure into subsidizing for you, you can now be even more proactive in reaching your goals (not to mention the apparent goals you have for others).

Your answer was right there in front of you all along.

The Y33TREKker VX Vault
Flexible Business Hours (Call for Appointment)
1-800-CMY-VX4$

[Baldwin]

I have no idea what has gone on here...and page 3 apparently has a virus and Chrome won't let me open it. Anyways, sounds like there's not much interest in the VX-O2 now. Isuzu did say they'd approve the scan. But the Petersen hasn't gotten back to me yet if they would still wanna charge $2500 to scan it.

[Y33TREKker]

I have no idea what has gone on here...

I do, but it had nothing to do with my original joke. So while I'd be the first to apologize if my intent had been to hijack your thread or belittle your efforts in any way, that won't be necessary since it wasn't.

...and page 3 apparently has a virus and Chrome won't let me open it. Anyways, sounds like there's not much interest in the VX-O2 now. Isuzu did say they'd approve the scan. But the Petersen hasn't gotten back to me yet if they would still wanna charge $2500 to scan it.

Is the scan request being made for any particular reason? Is someone considering using the 3D plots to make a Mission To Mars VX02 replica?

Good luck with the Peterson whatever the reason. It at least sounds like not all the people working there are operating with the $$$ > cars brickwall mentality.

[vt_maverick]

I do, but it had nothing to do with my original joke. So while I'd be the first to apologize if my intent had been to hijack your thread or belittle your efforts in any way, that won't be necessary since it wasn't.

Translation:

[Y33TREKker]

Translation:

You said that, I didn't. I will say though that when someone starts in with some of the same old attempts at character assassination (or sideline potshots like yours) as have been directed at me here in the past, I obviously didn't start it, but I have no problem finishing it.

Do you not find it even the slightest bit ironic that some will point the finger at me for unnecessarily (in their opinion) clogging up a thread but at the same time seem to have no reservations about jumping in occasionally with their own two cents? And some people here imply that I think I'm perfect...

[vt_maverick]

Do you not find it even the slightest bit ironic that some will point the finger at me for unnecessarily (in their opinion) clogging up a thread but at the same time seem to have no reservations about jumping in occasionally with their own two cents? And some people here imply that I think I'm perfect...

I have 5 posts in this thread, 3 of which were on topic, the others aimed at pushing you guys to take it "offline" or adding a little humor to the situation.

You on the other hand have 20 posts in this thread. New day/thread, same bickering between the same people. As I said earlier in this thread, you guys clearly do this to show off for the rest of the forum. If you were really interested in changing each others' minds you'd bound it to PMs, phone calls, or fights in the parking lot. And if you guys didn't want the attention you'd just not reply to stupid or unfair attacks.

It's an open forum and you guys are certainly entitled to do what you want, but I for one would prefer if you didn't junk up a thread in which I have a legitimate interest. Just start a thread called "Same ****, New Day" and then I can just avoid that one altogether.

[tom4bren]

Well, I just read this thread front to back. All I have to say is: DAY-UM!!! There's 30 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

Baldwin - thanks for the invite but I'll have to decline. It's just too far for us East-Coasters unless we're gonna be there on bizniz anyway. Maybe if we all ask Petersen's real nice, they'll donate the VX02 to the Smitsonian & we can all visit her for free.

As for all the other 'discussions' going on in this thread:

"I have no response to that."

[Y33TREKker]

As for all the other 'discussions' going on in this thread:

"I have no response to that."

For the record, I wouldn't have had any either if some here knew a joke when they saw one.

[tom4bren]

For the record, I wouldn't have had any either if some here knew a joke when they saw one.

Honestly - on my first read of your joke I too thought that you were slammin Baldwin. It wasn't till later in the thread that I realized that I was wrong.

[Triathlete]

Baldwin, thanks for your efforts and your effort to get this thread back on track. Maybe Moncha can start a new section for those who want to try to change each others opinion on religion, politics and site fee'$?

[BigSwede]

"I'm only paranoid because everybody is out to get me." - Frank Burns

[Baldwin]

ok...it's finally set. 2/23/13 at the Petersen Museum in Los Angeles. Please RSVP. We need at least 10 people to show up.
www.petersen.org Check the link below

http://vehicross.info/forums/showthr...light=petersen