how many are left?

[JoFotoz]

I think it was around 5950 ish total made..
...of which 4150 ish came to the USA.

It would be great to know how many are left in the USA.

Maybe we have an auto insurance expert here that knows
the average yearly attrition rate percentages for vehicles

Jo

[JoFotoz]

Any mathletes out there?

OK..its Aussie stats..but hey, should be close.

Attrition rate

The estimated proportion of motor vehicles taken off the register since the previous MVC (Motor Vehicles Constructed). The attrition rate is also referred to as the motor vehicle retirement or scrappage rate. The number of registration lapses is calculated by adding the total registrations at the earlier MVC to the number of new motor vehicle sales between the MVCs, and subtracting the total registrations at the later MVC. The attrition rate measures the number of registration lapses as a percentage of the total potential vehicle fleet, where the potential vehicle fleet is the number of registrations at the first MVC date plus the number of new motor vehicle sales between the two MVCs. To calculate the annualised attrition rate as a percentage apply the following formula:

Formula wont paste, but its here:-

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@....011&num=&view=

where T1 is the number of registrations at the first time point, N1 is the number of new sales between the first and second time points, T2 is the number of registrations at the second time point and M is the number of months between the two time points.


Have at it.....

Jo

[blacksambo]

The point you are all missing is the size of the market for what you've got to sell. Fixing the price is meaningless without seekers. Nobody knows what a VX is, therefore hardly anybody wants one, therefore the price is less than the $20K.

I've always said the VX needs a book written about it. Once that's done, more people will know it and want them, and viola the price will shoot up, naturally.

[Y33TREKker]

Well Trekker, I figured this was hypothetical fun banter...
...hence the "cat herding"

We've already experienced other areas where VX owners
dont agree on things, even some for the common good.

But hey ...if you say its not so hard ......


...have at it.



Consider me member #1 in the price fixing club.....
....and I'll give ya 10% of the 20k I get for my VX...

.... for your trouble


jo

That seems to be where you're misunderstanding what I'm currently saying jo. WE AREN'T DISAGREEING that everyone here would be only too eager to ask $20k for their VX if they were selling.

I'm merely adding that past actions have indicated that some here invariably seem to also want it both ways; ie: buy low - sell high, and it just doesn't work that way. When WE buy low, WE lower the market values of our own vehicles plain and simple.

You want to keep disagreeing with me just to be disagreeing even though we're actually agreeing, have at that.

[CoastieCosta567]

Consider me member #1 in the price fixing club.....



jo

x2, i'll be a member as well.

[JoFotoz]

.......

You want to keep disagreeing with me just to be disagreeing even though we're actually agreeing, have at that.

......it seems I often fail to get your drift.


jo

[H3_VX]

The point you are all missing is the size of the market for what you've got to sell. Fixing the price is meaningless without seekers. Nobody knows what a VX is, therefore hardly anybody wants one, therefore the price is less than the $20K.

I've always said the VX needs a book written about it. Once that's done, more people will know it and want them, and viola the price will shoot up, naturally.

EXACTLY!

A ton of VX's sit on the market for months. Hell, i've seen a few sit on market for over a year before. Fact of the matter is, I estimate a 0.000000000000001 chance that VX's will ever sell for anything close to $20K at this point. The people searching for an Isuzu, much less an Isuzu nobody even knows exists is very few and far between. Although, I own one car that Jay Leno says will be highly sought after in 50 years. Anyway, I'm sort of glad that the values of VX's won't reach $20k. I would not have been able to buy one like I did, and would certainly not have a shot at getting another in the not too distant future.

Also, if I had to guess, I would venture that 500-700 are out of commission. Anyone else care to venture a guess.

[JoFotoz]

Are you talking worldwide...or USA?

Also, if I had to guess, I would venture that 500-700 are out of commission. Anyone else care to venture a guess.

It would be really interesting to know...

Hence I put up the Equation/Formula info for a good 'guesstimate'.

I hope some one here attempts it.

I'll do Gross / Net / % profit and GRM's etc in my head all day..

...but equations leave me

jo

[H3_VX]

Are you talking worldwide...or USA?



It would be really interesting to know...

Hence I put up the Equation/Formula info for a good 'guesstimate'.

I hope some one here attempts it.

I'll do Gross / Net / % profit and GRM's etc in my head all day..

...but equations leave me

jo

I was talking world. What do you think the # is?

[blacksambo]

It would be safe to say after 13 years half are left, but many of them are in bad states of repair. Many will fall by the wayside in the very near future; the engine must be maintained, oill use -wise, and replacement motors are difficult to afford.

[vt_maverick]

Without calling each state's DMV and verifying active registrations your guess is as good as anyone's. After running less than half the Foxfire VINs through AutoCheck I was surprised at how many were still active. I'd bet 90% or more are still on the road more than a decade later.

x3 on stein's comments above, very well put.

[JoFotoz]

Well...

I was talking world. What do you think the # is?

...I really dunno!!

6000 originals worldwide...with an ownership that in general might be a bit more dedicated...

..I'd guess 300 ish.

Thats essentially one VX getting wiped out every two weeks worldwide.

....

Jo

[H3_VX]

Well...



...I really dunno!!

6000 originals worldwide...with an ownership that in general might be a bit more dedicated...

..I'd guess 300 ish.

Thats essentially one VX getting wiped out every two weeks worldwide.

....

Jo

Yeah, thats a good estimation. I don't think its as bad as some people think.

[89Vette]

The first thing that needs to happen is people (especially here) need to stop slamming Craigslist and eBay sales.

There is some truth to the "I bought one low." argument. People wanna brag about what they paid for a car (or any item) and convince others they should get in on that "bargain". While it can boost your own image, morale, or club-president status, it also advertises that you feel your purchased product is bargain-quality. IOW cheap.

Corvette owners do the same thing. They'll knock down and criticize (even owners of nice) specimens being sold. They'll down-grade what should be paid for it -- feeling they're doing the buyer a big favor. Problem is, they're shooting themselves in the foot for their own resale.

Those same people complain about the value of their Corvette's generation.

In one/two threads here, people have been quick to criticize my sharp reply while they can't see their same criticism directed toward sellers of their own "club" of vehicle.

In my opinion, the owners of "special" vehicles need to advertise, promote, and encourage sales to get better pricing. Either you think it's a great vehicle...a one of a kind...that's a special club worth getting into....OR, you need to realize you're bashing down the value of what you/yourself owns.

The problem from my perspective is you're also devaluing what I own too. And, I don't care for it. OTOH, it's ludicrous to think you can jump from currect values to $20k overnight. You can, I think ask a 10%-20% higher price and try to get it.

I remember an eBay selling a certain low-mileage FoxFire who sold it for less than I believe it was worth. Within a month later, we saw one with similar mileage/condition go for $1500 more. That's the margin I'm talking about.

One of these days, I think the price should start going up. And, it could be now. It takes the people who have good quality units to ask what their worth and wait. MPG might be the biggest detriment to cars of this caliber but it's not THAT bad if you keep the unit in good shape. I remember what the original FORD Broncos got...and it wasn't pretty.

There's a certain cost associated with driving something special. Please consider communicating that to your next buyer. Please consider that you do own something that's a rare part of automotive history.

[Vendetta]

See, unless someone hands me life-changing money, I'm never going to sell so I won't have to deal with this. Like ever.

-V