how many are left?

[VXR]

Your beliefs are your own, as are mine.

ya but yours are wrong

[Ldub]

ya but yours are wrong

Most beautifully & eloquently stated......

I see capital letters & commas in your future...

[VXR]

Most beautifully & eloquently stated

thanks

[VXR]

More importantly, I've no idea why anyone would take this discussion there.

X2 I don't know why people want to want talk about what if sales were better

it does not change the fact that the VX is a limited production vehicle as intended

and back to the point how many are left...

[vt_maverick]

I'm interested to know WHO would sue Isuzu. In order to sue someone you need to be able to demonstrate that you suffered damage in some way - financially, physically, emotionally, etc. If Isuzu switched to conventional dies and automated production and then stopped advertising the ceramic/hand-built piece who exactly is damaged enough to sue? I think the false advertising / legal liability argument is a serious stretch.

[Ldub]

Very well put! This is more the way I've view this icon of Isuzu...a prototype encouraged into production to promote the brand.

No disagreement... most everyone around here knows it was a "halo" vehicle designed to create a "buzz", & get bodies into the showroom...

I have to suspect it would have been lengthed (to accomodate 4-dr or at least better rear entry) if it were intended for large-scale production.

Ummmmmm...

They DID produce a 4 dr prototype(VX-4), so...



I have NO idea what they were thinking, since I wasn't at that meeting...

They also produced the VX-2 as a prototype...again...

I can't possibly know what they had in mind with all this prototypical behavior...
But I AM kinda digg'n the Cal-Mini style frt cross member & the roof scoop...





Thanks to Anita for the pics...

[blacksambo]

I'm interested to know WHO would sue Isuzu. In order to sue someone you need to be able to demonstrate that you suffered damage in some way - financially, physically, emotionally, etc. If Isuzu switched to conventional dies and automated production and then stopped advertising the ceramic/hand-built piece who exactly is damaged enough to sue? I think the false advertising / legal liability argument is a serious stretch.

I worked in the ad industry for ages. It's a big no no to start one line of reasoning behind a product and then change, without major red flag caveats all over the place. The ad industry is regulated by the Federal Trade Commision , in DC. They initiate law suits as do watch dog consumer protection organizations. General Motors has been sued by these organizations countless times and lost big time. No way they'd take the chance for their Isuzu Division.

But again, nobody launches a new model behind a hand assembled experimental concept. It's just not done, these days. Isuzu wanted to go racing and needed 5000 copies to warrant a production car class position on the grid.

[blacksambo]

Let me add one extra bit of perspective that may help. The VX beta test was Japan, in 97/98. They sold 600 to 120 million people, roughly half the USA pop at the time. If they thought that was a problem they would have never come to the USA with the VX, because the test would have translated into roughly 1200 units in the USA, a dismal flop for a mass production go ahead goal. Instead, they kept on building and eventually between Australia and the USA, at discounted pricess fulfilled their promise to the FIA and eaked out the neccessary approx 5000 units, all the dies could stamp out before losing quality.

[Cobrajet]

large vehicle manufacturers do not try new models out for sales potential in miniscule numbers and then build thousands more the next year if it attracts sales. They launch new models on a large scale and hope for the best. I don't know of any hand-assembled trial level new model experiments in the big-player car industry in the past fifty years. We're talking about the age of mass production here, especially for General Motors.

How about the 1964 Pontiac GTO?

"Frank Bridge, who did not believe it would find a market, insisted on limiting initial production to no more than 5,000 cars." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO

[VXR]

Isuzu wanted to go racing and needed 5000 copies to warrant a production car class position on the grid.

interesting info

[TheGanzman]

I wonder how many VX's are left...

[Ldub]

Instead, they kept on building and eventually between Australia and the USA, at discounted pricess fulfilled their promise to the FIA and eaked out the neccessary approx 5000 units, all the dies could stamp out before losing quality.

So where did the extra fenders, hoods, & quarters come from, that they were required to produce for replacements, you know...to be sold in the US, Auastrailia, & Japan...

Since you're supplying the figures, & I'm OBVIOUSLY ignorant of how big business does just that...business, perhaps you could enlighten me...

Also, I could use more enlightenment on the facts presented in this post...

[Ldub]

I wonder how many VX's are left...

All the ones shipped to the US...

The others were shipped to Japan & Austrailia.

[89Vette]

Ummmmmm...

They DID produce a 4 dr prototype(VX-4), so...I have NO idea what they were thinking, since I wasn't in that FOCUS GROUP!!!

Fixed! (They were eating Milky Ways, drinking Coke, and grunting about the desires of concept car buyers!!!)

But I AM kinda digg'n the Cal-Mini style frt cross member & the roof scoop...



Thanks to Anita for the pics...

[Ldub]

[QUOTE=89Vette;256758]

Ummmmmm...

They DID produce a 4 dr prototype(VX-4), so...I have NO idea what they were thinking, since I wasn't in that FOCUS GROUP!!!

I was expecting SO much more from you...

Even being able to work the quote function properly woulda been better...

At least YOU are usually able to come up with an intelligent counter...

Oh well...sleep on it...