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Buffy VT_Maverick's 5 Speed Swap 12/28/2011, 06:46 PM
vt_maverick So pumped... and I told you... 12/28/2011, 06:50 PM
Buffy Some general shots during the... 12/28/2011, 07:02 PM
Scott Larson Too cool guys, I'm pumped to... 12/28/2011, 07:15 PM
Triathlete If you have any wiring issues... 12/28/2011, 09:50 PM
vt_maverick Billy do you have contact... 12/29/2011, 01:03 AM
Triathlete Might try offrodenut@aol.com 12/29/2011, 07:32 AM
VXorado Woohoo, thanks for posting... 12/29/2011, 12:10 PM
etlsport The center console from a... 12/29/2011, 05:35 AM
vt_maverick Yeah I was looking at pics... 12/29/2011, 09:32 AM
samneil2000 What's the weight difference... 12/29/2011, 06:14 AM
vt_maverick Can you PM it to me and Buffy... 12/29/2011, 01:46 PM
Vendetta Man, if you guys do this... 12/29/2011, 01:51 PM
vt_maverick I know in our discussions the... 12/29/2011, 02:06 PM
Etfren I got a ton of paperwork from... 12/29/2011, 02:27 PM
vt_maverick Don't worry, you'll still... 12/29/2011, 02:50 PM
Buffy Ok, I got a little more done... 12/29/2011, 04:30 PM
Buffy Here are a few pictures of... 12/29/2011, 04:35 PM
Buffy This must be a Trooper thing... 12/29/2011, 04:37 PM
vt_maverick Sweet! :thumbup: 12/29/2011, 06:01 PM
Triathlete That tool looks like a drive... 12/29/2011, 04:48 PM
Buffy Good guess but has nothing to... 12/29/2011, 04:52 PM
vt_maverick Need Help Sourcing Trim 12/30/2011, 10:44 AM
VXorado Seems like you could just cut... 12/30/2011, 02:56 PM
vt_maverick Thanks guys, Earl found one... 12/30/2011, 07:44 PM
Buffy Answer: The "tool" started... 12/30/2011, 08:47 PM
VXorado Thats strange that the... 12/30/2011, 11:31 PM
JAMAS Call here... 12/30/2011, 12:59 PM
Scott Larson Your bearing removal tool... 12/30/2011, 01:11 PM
Scott Larson Thanks Buffy, I thought it... 12/30/2011, 09:04 PM
vt_maverick Well since we have an entire... 12/30/2011, 11:42 PM
Buffy As promised picture time!! ... 12/31/2011, 06:11 AM
Buffy Once I got the cases sorted... 12/31/2011, 06:21 AM
Buffy I got an early start today so... 12/31/2011, 10:37 AM
Vendetta Following this thread with... 12/31/2011, 10:53 AM
vt_maverick You and me both V. ... 12/31/2011, 11:03 AM
BigSwede I think this is going to be a... 12/31/2011, 03:35 PM
Buffy The trans is mated to the... 12/31/2011, 08:01 PM
VXorado You're on a roll & will be... 12/31/2011, 08:18 PM
Buffy I tied up most of the... 01/01/2012, 05:36 PM
LittleBeast Do you have any pictures of... 05/25/2015, 12:19 PM
vt_maverick So looks like the Trooper... 01/01/2012, 06:39 PM
VXorado Whats the difference in the... 01/01/2012, 07:05 PM
Buffy I has to do with how the... 01/01/2012, 07:10 PM
VXorado Thats good info, I remember... 01/01/2012, 07:15 PM
Buffy Yea it matched up nicely. I... 01/01/2012, 07:08 PM
JAMAS This is a good thread to... 01/03/2012, 08:37 AM
WormGod Ya, now if someone would just... 01/04/2012, 06:56 AM
Buffy Over all it hasn't been that... 01/04/2012, 07:20 AM
vt_maverick Sorry to hear that Greg, hope... 01/04/2012, 07:54 AM
eternal21 Great thread! 01/04/2012, 08:43 AM
Buffy I see you are in Austin. I am... 01/04/2012, 10:19 AM
eternal21 Cool. Let me know! If... 01/04/2012, 12:12 PM
Mile High VX I'll be there the week of Feb... 01/05/2012, 08:17 AM
Cris Good luck with your Vx trans... 01/04/2012, 08:53 AM
eternal21 That's where the... 01/04/2012, 09:02 AM
VXorado You lose TOD with the Manual... 01/04/2012, 10:50 AM
Triathlete I can't wait to axe my TOD... 01/04/2012, 04:42 PM
VXorado If I recall correctly,... 01/04/2012, 07:01 PM
BigSwede I think this is correct...it... 01/05/2012, 06:51 AM
Leon R Does this transfer case have... 06/04/2013, 03:56 PM
VXorado No, the 4wd Hi/Low positions... 06/04/2013, 04:39 PM
blacksambo Great work. Did you know... 01/05/2012, 08:05 PM
Buffy I was not aware that Isuzu... 01/06/2012, 05:04 AM
vt_maverick If you have the time that... 01/05/2012, 09:30 PM
vt_maverick Just learned something... the... 01/05/2012, 10:30 PM
VXorado You have boggled my mind with... 01/06/2012, 02:42 AM
vt_maverick Because it's that dumb of an... 01/06/2012, 08:22 PM
VXorado No its a pretty clever... 01/07/2012, 10:28 AM
eternal21 Very much so, just wiring the... 01/07/2012, 12:33 AM
vt_maverick +1, my thoughts exactly... 01/07/2012, 03:08 PM
Buffy Feeling better and got a bit... 01/07/2012, 04:06 PM
Mile High VX Should arrive on Monday along... 01/07/2012, 04:11 PM
blacksambo Also, did you know that the... 01/06/2012, 07:39 AM
vt_maverick No thanks, not trying to make... 01/06/2012, 09:00 AM
blacksambo Good point. Merely letting... 01/06/2012, 01:19 PM
vt_maverick Just razzin' you a bit sambo... 01/06/2012, 08:11 PM
VXorado Can you use the wiring... 01/07/2012, 04:15 PM
Buffy You have to use the harness... 01/07/2012, 04:22 PM
VXorado Okay, that makes sense. 01/07/2012, 04:25 PM
vt_maverick Very cool, glad to hear... 01/07/2012, 04:41 PM
Mile High VX No problem sir...I know you... 01/07/2012, 04:57 PM
Etfren For some reason I am having... 01/08/2012, 02:04 PM
Buffy I have the main harness... 01/08/2012, 04:41 PM
Chopper I'm late to the... 01/08/2012, 04:51 PM
Buffy I installed both the clutch... 01/08/2012, 05:13 PM
rowhard These seem like they are... 01/15/2012, 10:33 AM
vt_maverick Greg - Couple questions for... 01/08/2012, 09:01 PM
Buffy Yes that is the cat in the... 01/09/2012, 05:07 AM
vt_maverick Cool, thanks Greg! 01/09/2012, 06:15 AM
vt_maverick :drool2: Absolutely... 01/14/2012, 06:50 PM
Mile High VX Like a four year old on... 01/14/2012, 06:53 PM
VXorado Yay, looks great.:wishes: 01/14/2012, 07:18 PM
RabidPony So, when can I ship you mine?... 01/14/2012, 08:03 PM
Vendetta Wow. Just... wow.... 01/14/2012, 10:36 PM
Ldub X a factor 0f... 01/15/2012, 07:10 AM
vt_maverick I will try V, have to figure... 01/15/2012, 08:02 AM
Buffy We are all loaded up. Ashley... 01/15/2012, 08:28 AM
VXorado Would you say its best to get... 01/15/2012, 08:46 AM
vt_maverick Well Greg and I met a few... 01/15/2012, 03:58 PM
blacksambo I have to remark here. No... 01/17/2012, 12:01 PM
VXorado Surprisingly the trend is... 01/17/2012, 05:20 PM
vt_maverick Lol - I think if I did a lot... 01/17/2012, 06:21 PM
blacksambo I think you might have the... 01/17/2012, 07:33 PM
vt_maverick Yes they did miss the manual... 01/17/2012, 06:17 PM
VXjunky ashley was this swap... 01/15/2012, 04:39 PM
vt_maverick This swap was on my new (to... 01/15/2012, 04:49 PM
Buffy I am pleased and relieved... 01/15/2012, 06:04 PM
Etfren Fantastic job Buffy! Looks... 01/16/2012, 02:15 AM
RabidPony What year range donor Trooper... 01/16/2012, 06:19 PM
Buffy The 99 Trooper is the best. I... 01/16/2012, 06:24 PM
SilverBullet75 Does it matter what engine it... 01/16/2012, 07:29 PM
vt_maverick According to Edmunds the 3.5... 01/16/2012, 08:28 PM
SilverBullet75 Were there any issues... 01/16/2012, 10:40 PM
Buffy It is a direct swap. Meaning... 01/17/2012, 04:56 AM
VXorado Great, can't wait for the... 01/17/2012, 08:16 AM
vt_maverick VXorado - how many miles on... 01/17/2012, 08:50 AM
VXorado The ad didn't say. I'll be... 01/17/2012, 08:57 AM
SilverBullet75 What kind of mileage do you... 01/17/2012, 11:41 AM
Buffy According to Jerry Lemond... 01/17/2012, 11:56 AM
rsteinmetz70112 If I recall correctly there... 01/17/2012, 12:38 PM
blacksambo I'd be curious to know more... 01/17/2012, 02:29 PM
rsteinmetz70112 Not really it was just... 01/17/2012, 06:03 PM
vt_maverick The Trooper exhaust that we... 01/17/2012, 06:18 PM
vt_maverick You're right, got that... 01/17/2012, 07:47 PM
blacksambo I gotta love your enthusiasm,... 01/17/2012, 07:49 PM
vt_maverick I've got spirit, yes I do,... 01/17/2012, 09:38 PM
LittleBeast Awesome!!!!! So when my 3.5L... 01/17/2012, 10:36 PM
RabidPony So, if an AR-15 shoots 5.56... 01/17/2012, 11:19 PM
Ldub Fiddy... 01/18/2012, 06:09 AM
Buffy Hmmmmmm .223????? 22-20??? :?: 01/18/2012, 06:12 AM
Etfren Thanks for bumping this... 05/27/2012, 02:17 PM
vt_maverick Checked last night and 60 MPH... 05/28/2012, 07:38 AM
Etfren Awesome, thanks for checking.... 05/28/2012, 10:50 AM
89Vette Bigger tires would lower the... 05/28/2012, 01:52 PM
89Vette Pretty darn close to stock. ... 05/28/2012, 01:51 PM
vt_maverick Yeah I've come to realize... 05/28/2012, 03:06 PM
Ldub Fwiw... 05/28/2012, 04:21 PM
Etfren Oh yeah, it accelerates way... 05/30/2012, 01:07 AM
VXorado :grino: I drove the 5 speed... 05/28/2012, 08:03 AM
eternal21 Buffy, I'm wondering if you... 06/30/2012, 02:26 PM
tom4bren I didn't see where anyone had... 03/19/2013, 02:23 PM
tom4bren Hopefully sending the Word... 03/21/2013, 04:26 AM
bartmanS4 Hey Tom, I've got some more... 03/21/2013, 02:52 PM
tom4bren Thanks. I added it to the... 03/25/2013, 06:14 AM
vt_maverick I thought about removing the... 03/25/2013, 03:12 PM
tom4bren Crap 03/26/2013, 02:48 PM
Buffy Very interesting.... been... 03/26/2013, 06:30 PM
bartmanS4 I used the Trooper exhaust... 03/26/2013, 10:04 PM
vt_maverick IIRC the post cat O2 sensors... 03/29/2013, 06:33 PM
kickerfox Hello everyone. Buffy, I'm... 04/11/2013, 11:16 PM
vt_maverick It's an Aisin AR-5. You... 04/12/2013, 07:47 AM
kickerfox Hmm. I wonder why I keep... 04/12/2013, 11:07 AM
vt_maverick Thanks man. The MUA5 was... 04/12/2013, 11:16 AM
Buffy It can bolt to a 3.2. Not... 04/12/2013, 11:47 AM
Buffy While doing the 5 speed swap... 04/12/2013, 11:53 AM
SilverBullet75 YES!! My V8 project is... 04/12/2013, 10:37 PM
housertl As would I. Frankly, I... 04/16/2013, 08:45 AM
kickerfox It's really the bell housing... 04/12/2013, 11:53 AM
SilverBullet75 Ask and ye shall receive...... 04/13/2013, 07:16 PM
kickerfox Wrong one. I was looking for... 04/13/2013, 09:16 PM
SilverBullet75 Awesome! Glad you found it!... 04/13/2013, 09:33 PM
Leon R Bummer :(. Hard to believe... 06/04/2013, 04:43 PM
SilverBullet75 Just a quick verification... ... 06/12/2013, 12:25 PM
bartmanS4 Yes indeed. My donor was a... 06/12/2013, 01:57 PM
SilverBullet75 Awesome! Thank you! 06/12/2013, 02:05 PM
vt_maverick Believe so. IIRC the... 06/12/2013, 12:33 PM
SilverBullet75 That's what I thought too. I... 06/12/2013, 12:37 PM
vt_maverick Stay patient, I paid $800 for... 06/12/2013, 06:32 PM
SilverBullet75 Excellent advice. Thank you.... 06/12/2013, 09:11 PM
bartmanS4 It wouldn't be that... 06/13/2013, 10:03 AM
vt_maverick Definitely would be harder,... 06/13/2013, 06:14 AM
Leon R That is largely dependent on... 06/13/2013, 06:31 AM
vt_maverick Lol... 06/13/2013, 10:03 AM
Buffy The ECU from the 98 or 99... 06/13/2013, 10:30 AM
SilverBullet75 PMing you now! 06/13/2013, 12:11 PM
SilverBullet75 I decided to keep looking for... 06/13/2013, 01:48 PM
Knigh7s I believe its supposed to be... 06/13/2013, 09:08 PM
Leon R Something to keep in mind. ... 06/13/2013, 09:22 PM
SilverBullet75 Interesting point. Vegas... 06/14/2013, 11:26 AM
Leon R Same engine is not enough,... 06/14/2013, 11:47 AM
vt_maverick I can help facilitate this... 06/14/2013, 07:04 PM
housertl Maverick, I very well may... 06/17/2013, 01:24 PM
JAMAS I can't tell you how many... 06/17/2013, 01:40 PM
vt_maverick Offer him $500 and if he says... 06/17/2013, 06:39 PM
Asouljah just did a swap and my truck... 03/02/2015, 07:32 PM
bartmanS4 Not a lot to go on here. I'd... 03/02/2015, 08:44 PM
Buffy Did you plug the security... 03/03/2015, 05:26 AM
Asouljah yes they are plugged in, no... 03/09/2015, 12:02 PM
Asouljah no start 03/09/2015, 12:15 PM
eternal21 K, trying to make sense of... 03/09/2015, 02:36 PM
Asouljah no diagnostic codes. scanner... 03/09/2015, 03:31 PM
eternal21 K. Did you already swap the... 03/09/2015, 03:51 PM
Asouljah yes, same situation both... 03/10/2015, 12:37 AM
LittleBeast I will be doing this swap... 05/07/2015, 09:57 AM
bartmanS4 '98-01 Trooper S models are... 05/07/2015, 10:15 AM
LittleBeast Is the "S" part crucial? I... 05/07/2015, 07:35 PM
eternal21 I usually visit car-parts.com... 05/07/2015, 11:40 PM
bartmanS4 No, the S model is just the... 05/08/2015, 09:38 AM
eternal21 Dunno, man....this is an S... 05/08/2015, 11:44 AM
bartmanS4 I'm not saying all S models... 05/08/2015, 12:47 PM
eternal21 "I see," said the blind man... 05/08/2015, 01:39 PM
Buffy I would recommend an... 05/11/2015, 06:45 AM
LittleBeast Gotcha. So that line will... 05/11/2015, 06:52 AM
Buffy The line will connect at the... 05/12/2015, 01:54 PM
eternal21 The lines are connected to... 05/13/2015, 08:22 AM
LittleBeast I am still searching the vast... 05/14/2015, 08:39 AM
eternal21 Last weekend my buddy and I... 05/14/2015, 09:13 AM
LittleBeast Will either of these work? ... 05/17/2015, 08:52 PM
bartmanS4 Definitely! 05/17/2015, 09:27 PM
LittleBeast Do they need to have TOD? How... 05/18/2015, 05:28 AM
bartmanS4 No, TOD was only on the... 05/18/2015, 05:48 AM
LittleBeast Alright looks like I will be... 05/18/2015, 06:38 AM
LittleBeast I have a '99 Trooper with a 5... 05/21/2015, 10:35 PM
bartmanS4 Sweet! Good luck 05/21/2015, 11:52 PM
eternal21 Congratulations!:) Did you... 05/22/2015, 05:21 PM
Buffy Do you have the clutch pedal... 05/22/2015, 06:11 PM
eternal21 I'm using the Trooper clutch... 05/23/2015, 03:15 AM
bartmanS4 Aren't your clutch and brake... 05/23/2015, 10:31 AM
eternal21 Negative. I wear a size... 05/23/2015, 11:42 PM
LittleBeast Well it looked like the... 05/23/2015, 03:01 PM
VX crazy Ryan what happened to my... 05/23/2015, 06:22 PM
LittleBeast Torque converter only lasted... 05/23/2015, 08:51 PM
LittleBeast I plan on swapping in the... 05/25/2015, 08:55 AM
papi007bulgaria Hello guys. I just had my... 01/08/2016, 06:00 AM
bartmanS4 Hi Pavel, I can't say for... 01/08/2016, 12:18 PM
Buffy If you have access to a... 01/09/2016, 01:45 PM
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    VT_Maverick's 5 Speed Swap

    Ok, the transformation has begun. I've received most of the parts from Jerry to do the swap, the actual clutch is still on its way. I got the old auto trans out today and plan on myabe getting the pedals swapped out tomorrow and get the flywheel installed too. Once the clutch gets here it is time for the next step. I am still scratching my head on the wiring as there are a ton of wires on the auto and not so many on the manual. I will get it figured out soon, no worries Ashley! So now for some pictures....

    Here is the patient ready for surgery..



    Flywheel, pedals, clutch master, slave cylinder, new clutch bolts, new trans mount, and new flywheel bolts...



    The AR5 manual trans...





    I was pleased to see no rust and all bolts came out easily, except the exhaust bolts which required some heat to losen up...






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    So pumped... and I told you guys he would post pics!

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    Some general shots during the tear down...

    TOD unit...



    Console is out...



    Note to self.... don't forget the little ground wire....



    AR5 -vs- 4L30



    Talk about a wiring mess....



    TOD is much larger than the transfer case that was in the Trooper...



    Look Ma no tranny!...



    I will be making a trip to the junk yard tomorrow to see if I can find some interior pieces to go around the shifter. The under boot from the Trooper will work BUT the interior trim piece will not. I am hoping something from an Amigo or Rodeo will work. The end goal is for VT_Maverick to have a VX that looks like it originally came from the factory with a 5 speed.
    Last edited by Buffy : 12/28/2011 at 07:07 PM

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    Too cool guys, I'm pumped to see how it all works out. Best of luck with the swap!! Keep those pics and info coming...
    Vixer Fixer

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    If you have any wiring issues you might give Allen (bigmeatvx) a shout. If I remember right he said his wiring was plug and play except a couple wires that controled the trooper shift light/vx tod light.
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    Billy do you have contact info for Allen? I believe Greg has been trying to reach him unsuccessfully for the past few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    Billy do you have contact info for Allen? I believe Greg has been trying to reach him unsuccessfully for the past few weeks.
    Might try offrodenut@aol.com

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    Woohoo, thanks for posting the swap with pics!!!! I'm planning on doing the swap next fall and the info is very helpful, keep it going .


    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    Billy do you have contact info for Allen? I believe Greg has been trying to reach him unsuccessfully for the past few weeks.
    I have his updated email & phone # if you want, the aol address is old. Just PM if you want & i'll look it up.

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    The center console from a mid-late 90s rodeo or passport will work


    "Engineers believe if it ain't broke, it doesn't have enough features yet"

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    Quote Originally Posted by etlsport View Post
    The center console from a mid-late 90s rodeo or passport will work
    Yeah I was looking at pics online last night and the 95.5-97 Rodeo/Passport console should work. IIRC the center console around the shifters was really wide in the Trooper which is why it doesn't fit.

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    What's the weight difference between the two trannies? I figure the manual should be a few lbs lighter, plus the weight of the fluid.

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    Can you PM it to me and Buffy both? He's the one who really needs to talk to him (about the wiring especially).

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    Man, if you guys do this right and put together a little how-to, there could be more than a few "donations" in the cards.

    As engines and trannies start going, this would provide a great way to not just fix them up, but make them feel like a whole new experience. For my part, I'd try to mate a more powerful engine while I'm at it. Too bad I just friggin' replaced mine.

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    I know in our discussions the goal was first and foremost to increase reliability. Replacing the wimpy 4L30 with an Isuzu-sourced, beefier, and cheaper to maintain transmission eliminates half of our major reliability problems while likely increasing fuel economy by a few MPGs as well. The next logical step would be to swap out the oil and gas gulping engine, with the easiest option being an Isuzu-sourced engine that is compatible with the AR5 transmission, hence why Greg is looking at diesel options. Assuming he can get a non-problematic engine to work (per PK's comments) that would give us a much longer life engine that's also more fuel efficient (we're thinking 25-30 MPG + between a diesel and manual). Granted it won't have the muscle or sexiness of a GM V8 swap, but it would (theoretically) be much more fuel efficient and reliable. As you can see there are a number of technical hurdles to solve with all Isuzu components, so you can only imagine what would be involved in a full drivetrain swap. And it's anybody's guess how reliable (and expensive) that might be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triathlete View Post
    If you have any wiring issues you might give Allen (bigmeatvx) a shout. If I remember right he said his wiring was plug and play except a couple wires that controled the trooper shift light/vx tod light.
    I got a ton of paperwork from Allan when I bought it and I think I remember seeing a wiring diagram of some sort that was for the tranny swap or something like it. I know he wired up the trooper shift indicator light to the "check trans" light.

    Guess this means I won't have the only 5-speed VX anymore. Can't wait to see the results!

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