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    Doesn't the flex plate bolt to the torque converter? How could they NOT "touch" the flex plate when they removed the transmission/torque converter. If they didn't re-install it correctly they could have put some uneven pressure on the flex plate causing it to snap. I find it hard to believe that they are not responsible.
    Gregg
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    Make it clear to them that you can no longer recommend their service to anyone you know. The probability of your flexplate failing is already ~ 0, add in that they did remove the transmission, and this entirely indicates that they are really trying to rape you. Why would you pay the same shop to fix what they broke? Go to a different shop if you feel that they won't fix it for you and you have to pay anyways. Otherwise, they will just keep raping you. Next time, you'll notice that the TOD mounts have failed, and the transfercase needs to be replaced.....

    Get real Breezy - no one in these sorts of business is honest.

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    Not to throw salt on your wounds but my engine went bad at the same time my trans was reworked. The trans man kept it for several more weeks and put some significant time into it trying to solve the problem. He did it free of charge. He didn't have too.

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    My flexplate (flywheel) broke the day after I picked my VX up from the dealer after they had replaced the motor. They towed and repaired at no cost. Not the same I know but, just saying.

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    The flex plate does bolt right up to the TC. I'm not sure how one would go about replacing the tranny and stuff without touching it. I asked all the probing questions about stuff they could have done wrong...but it does seem like too much of a coincidence...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breezy View Post
    The flex plate does bolt right up to the TC. I'm not sure how one would go about replacing the tranny and stuff without touching it.
    been awhile since I did a auto box but am thinking, converter bolts to flex plate, transmission input shaft plugs into converter, so yes, you could remove the box and not really touch the converter/flex plate
    Greetings, Earthling. We come in peace... Never mind "Paris to Dakar", the VehiCROSS looks ready for the Martian desert.

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    i had an old 84 ford ranger that the flex plate that had some missing teeth i used to keep a beaker bar with a socket and cheater bar behind the seat and just turned the motor til i found a good spot to turn it over with just saying that worked till the day it went to the junk yard

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    Not a doubt in my mind, zero, that the trans removal and install was the cause of a failed flex-plate. If the trans was forced on to a torque converter left bolted to the flex-plate, bad juju happens! If the torque converter was on the trans input shaft and bolted to the flex-plate incorrectly during install, bad juju happens! If the flex-plate wasn't inspected before the trans install, bad juju happens! As a matter of course, the flex-plate should ALWAYS be replaced in a high-mileage trans install, or BAD JUJU HAPPENS!!
    Vixer Fixer

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    Well she is all replaced now...Working good, at least for the time being. I kept the old flex plate though, and upon inspecting it, I found the the stress/strain cracks where it had fatigued where on the inside (facing engine). So if the shop had inspected it without removing it, as seems to be the proper way to do it, then they wouldnt have seen the stressed parts of the plate, sending me back into the world with one that is about to go out. But maybe I'm just on the optimal side because I've put a lot of money into this and I just want to side with the brighter side of things =]

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    Then, that's all that matters. If you're happy, there's nothing else to say. Hope everything continues on the sunnier side of life, NEVER ask "what next?", or bad juju happens...LOL!!

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    It was actually a bad flex-plate then, huh?

    I've done many transmissions & I've never seen or heard of a flex-plate going bad. (I had a flex-plate on my old '77 Diplomat lose a few teeth, so I carried a wrench around to manually rotate it to a good spot to start it once in awhile too! But that was a starter issue that ate the teeth off by not fully engaging the starter / flex-plate ring gear.) In my mind a flex-plate is just a part that doesn't go bad... Guess I'll file this one away for future reference!

    With that being said. I have never given much thought about, nor would I have ever had reason before to remove the flex-plate when doing trans work. It's also not standard proceedure to leave the torque converter bolted to the flex-plate when removing the trans. It usually wouldn't be feasable due to the increased distance the trans would have to be moved backwards in order to disengage the trans input shaft from the torque converter...

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