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blacksambo New Range Rover Evoque vs.... 08/08/2011, 02:23 PM
RickOKC My nitpicks� I think it's... 08/08/2011, 05:35 PM
vt_maverick I'm confused - is this an old... 08/08/2011, 06:58 PM
RickOKC This topic is specific to the... 08/08/2011, 07:15 PM
wintermute haha, go to the rover website... 08/08/2011, 11:17 PM
blacksambo Remember, a VX cost 32K 13... 08/09/2011, 06:04 AM
Cobrajet The VehiCROSS was a sales... 08/09/2011, 08:31 AM
vt_maverick +1000 Somehow the fact that... 08/09/2011, 10:29 AM
vt_maverick $41469.29 would be the... 08/09/2011, 10:27 AM
blacksambo The VX was an expensive... 08/09/2011, 12:51 PM
Vendetta VX vs Evoque? Well, I drove... 03/27/2012, 03:42 PM
blacksambo Nice to hear. It's what I... 03/27/2012, 08:01 PM
lasturbo All have their own opinion so... 03/27/2012, 09:20 PM
Vendetta 'Turbo, I have all the... 03/27/2012, 09:54 PM
lasturbo V, After reading my post and... 03/27/2012, 10:34 PM
Riff Raff Here is some more news-- the... 03/28/2012, 07:10 AM
CoastieCosta567 Still, we can't forget that... 03/27/2012, 09:50 PM
Pepino I own a VX and an Evoque,... 03/28/2012, 08:53 AM
nfpgasmask On another note, car reviews... 03/28/2012, 09:12 AM
nfpgasmask My wife wants one. But she... 03/28/2012, 09:05 AM
Pepino Here are some pictures side... 03/28/2012, 05:34 PM
H3_VX Damn, that Foxfire looks... 03/28/2012, 05:41 PM
FlyingV77 wow! thats so tiny. 03/28/2012, 06:03 PM
blacksambo The Evoque will ultimately... 03/28/2012, 08:12 PM
Chopper I like my VX and all.....but... 03/29/2012, 03:30 AM
blacksambo Nice buy. But early Porsches... 03/29/2012, 09:45 AM
Ldub Ummmmm...srsly...:confused: ... 03/29/2012, 03:14 PM
Ldub Oh...& FWIW 03/29/2012, 04:12 PM
Vendetta Hey man, leave the weird... 03/29/2012, 04:24 PM
Chopper Willys/Overland beat Isuzu to... 03/29/2012, 05:33 PM
nfpgasmask I gotta say, Pepino, those... 03/29/2012, 09:57 AM
Pepino I have always liked weird... 03/30/2012, 01:05 AM
deermagnet Apparently, there's at least... 03/30/2012, 06:42 AM
Pepino I think I know that guy and... 03/30/2012, 10:21 AM
blacksambo The first vehicle with fangs... 03/29/2012, 05:41 PM
Ldub So...you're not seeing any... 03/29/2012, 06:54 PM
blacksambo Thanks for the address. Now I... 03/29/2012, 08:15 PM
Ldub I think you just shot... 03/29/2012, 08:34 PM
RickOKC Hey Pepino, thanks for... 03/29/2012, 07:19 PM
Pepino Yes, I love the 3 of them. ... 03/30/2012, 01:11 AM
Vendetta My favorite is when someone,... 03/29/2012, 08:45 PM
blacksambo I never said the Juke was... 03/29/2012, 09:05 PM
Ldub I think you're confusing what... 03/30/2012, 06:13 AM
blacksambo No confusion. Not in the... 03/30/2012, 10:17 AM
Ldub I am always vverrrrrry happy... 03/30/2012, 07:23 PM
Vendetta Sambo, I did see your invite... 03/29/2012, 09:13 PM
blacksambo Of course, of course. 03/30/2012, 08:13 PM
Chopper That old saying..... When... 03/31/2012, 04:03 AM
VXR :LineWave::_beer::thumbup: 03/31/2012, 05:09 AM
blacksambo Yes, for a crumby seller the... 03/31/2012, 09:27 PM
Osteomata I like the Juke just fine. I... 03/31/2012, 06:25 AM
Scott Harness X2 03/31/2012, 06:32 AM
Chopper my wife wants a Juke.... fine... 03/31/2012, 07:23 AM
Pepino X3 03/31/2012, 08:46 AM
blacksambo Remember the Juke was... 03/31/2012, 12:57 PM
H3_VX I like the Evoque. I would... 07/08/2012, 08:54 AM
circmand Cmon 07/09/2012, 08:11 AM
vt_maverick I assume it's a super light... 07/09/2012, 08:31 AM
blacksambo It has Haldex (what ever that... 07/10/2012, 02:08 PM
PHO2GR4 Does it have silicone... 07/10/2012, 06:15 PM
RickOKC I finally saw an Evoque in... 07/10/2012, 08:12 PM
blacksambo It's really more cross over... 07/10/2012, 08:26 PM
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    I gotta say, Pepino, those three next to eachother is very interesting. Especially, since I still think the VX stands out the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask View Post
    I gotta say, Pepino, those three next to eachother is very interesting. Especially, since I still think the VX stands out the most.

    Bart
    I have always liked weird looking vehicles. The VX does stand out a lot here in Mexico since I am pretty sure it is the only one in the country.
    People stare at the evoque too but not in a "WTF is that" way. They look at it and keep going their way. The juke did get some looks at the beginning but now there is just too many of them out there. Wait till I lower it and put some bigger wheels in it and it will look great. IF the Juke-R would have come out, I probably would have gotten that one instead.

    The VX is still the one that gets most attention, but also as an 11 year old truck which has seen pretty bad weather and has been offroad many times, it just isnt in the best shape it used to be. I am planning on restoring it sometime soon. I will never sell the VX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepino View Post
    The VX does stand out a lot here in Mexico since I am pretty sure it is the only one in the country.
    Apparently, there's at least one other VX in Mexico now.

    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=22170

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    Quote Originally Posted by deermagnet View Post
    Apparently, there's at least one other VX in Mexico now.

    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/showthread.php?t=22170

    Mark
    I think I know that guy and if I remember corrrectly, he drives back and forth from the border all the time, the VX isnt settled in Mexico like mine. I am all the way in Mexico City.

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    The first vehicle with fangs has to be the first truly aggressively styled vehicle. period. Need I say more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blacksambo View Post
    The first vehicle with fangs has to be the first truly aggressively styled vehicle. period. Need I say more?
    So...you're not seeing any fang like protrusions here...

    PLEASE send me a BUTT load of whatever yer smok'n...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    So...you're not seeing any fang like protrusions here...

    PLEASE send me a BUTT load of whatever yer smok'n...

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    Thanks for the address. Now I know where to send all my excess machinations. But please, here, the auto you depict was not styled by any thing other than a need to homologate big wheels for SCCA racing. The basic car is not a Cobra but an AC Bristol (British design), on steroids. That's not intentional agressive styling, but instead intent to circumvent parochial racing rules, no more. The VX was a total departure, based on a specific intent to offer totally new styling horizons; its later racing duties a secondary consideration.

    Now as far as Willy's Jeepster etc. etc. They were not styling departures. If we were that near sighted we'd have to included model "T" Roadsters etc.
    The VX was an intentional departure into aggressivism, so to speak. It most closely mirrors the wheel arches and side pods of the original '66 Toronado, but adds large expanses of ribbed polypropelene and fangs, yes fangs to punctuate a move to the next frontier. And, no, the VX just like the original 356 Porsche will never look dated as a result of its bold manuever to genuinely depart. Just look at Pepino's photos they tell the whole story, right there. The Evoque looks weak by comparison in terms of departure status. The Juke looks totally VX copycat, and nothing more. Nuff said? I invite your concerns/questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksambo View Post
    The Juke looks totally VX copycat, and nothing more. Nuff said? I invite your concerns/questions.
    I think you just shot yourself in the foot there barney...that thing is BUTT ugly.

    I'll reiterate..."PLEASE send me a BUTT load of whatever yer smok'n..."

    Sans machinations

    And why do people with a "flimsy at best" argument, always say "need I say more", or the ever popular: "nuff said"...

    SAYS WHO?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    I think you just shot yourself in the foot there barney...that thing is BUTT ugly.

    I'll reiterate..."PLEASE send me a BUTT load of whatever yer smok'n..."

    Sans machinations

    And why do people with a "flimsy at best" argument, always say "need I say more", or the ever popular: "nuff said"...

    SAYS WHO?...
    No joke!! I can't imagine who would like those!! I test drove one, suckola!!! UGLY
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    Hey Pepino, thanks for posting the photo of the VX & Evoque together. I've yet to see the new Rover in person and I expected it to be MUCH BIGGER than the VX! I hope you love 'em both - they look so awesome! I like that you got the Juke in there, too! It looks bigger than the VX in comparison even though I've seen a few on them on the road.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RickOKC View Post
    Hey Pepino, thanks for posting the photo of the VX & Evoque together. I've yet to see the new Rover in person and I expected it to be MUCH BIGGER than the VX! I hope you love 'em both - they look so awesome! I like that you got the Juke in there, too! It looks bigger than the VX in comparison even though I've seen a few on them on the road.
    Yes, I love the 3 of them.

    VX can handle everything.
    Evoque is so comfortable and such nice audio system and I still have to take it to do some light off roading. Some Turbo lag, but fast once the turbo starts spinning. Plus I have a Ford Focus RS Mk2 and the evoque has the same engine as the 2012 Focus ST, wanted to see how it felt.
    Nissan Juke dont like the interiors very much, leather or 4wheel drive werent available in Mexico but i have to say it is fast as hell. Also the Juke is the smallest of the three, almost no room in the trunk, and rear seat room isnt that great either.
    If you want more pictures just let me know.

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    My favorite is when someone, ANYone, says that "the such-and-such debate is over," or "there no even arguing such-and-such." Simply reply "I disagree" and with those two little words, you immediately and effectively invalidate their claim.

    And then you just have fun with them when they try to think for themselves. All too easy.

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    I never said the Juke was good looking...merely that as a styling excersise it was propelled by the VX experience and failed, just for clarification. Nor did I preclude any further debate, and purposely invited further retort. Please read what was specifically stated. I only lofted the question of was this enough, and requested more response. Now, let's be fair here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksambo View Post
    I never said the Juke was good looking...merely that as a styling excersise it was propelled by the VX experience and failed, just for clarification.
    I think you're confusing what you "meant", with what you "said"...

    "The Juke looks totally VX copycat, and nothing more."

    Quote Originally Posted by blacksambo View Post
    Nor did I preclude any further debate, and purposely invited further retort. Please read what was specifically stated. Now, let's be fair here.
    I agree, that we disagree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ldub View Post
    I think you're confusing what you "meant", with what you "said"...

    "The Juke looks totally VX copycat, and nothing more."



    I agree, that we disagree...
    No confusion. Not in the least. The Juke as a product apes the VX. But as I added it has "failed" to be as successful stylingwise. If you want an automotive footnote, look no further than the Nissan Juke. It will never be viewed as a departure from anything olr an original, it merely recollects the VX of 19 years earlier. Said differently, it will never make Motor Trends classics list, like the VX has (which I have mentioned above).

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