I agree the MKL attribution is not right. I still subscribe to the sentiment.
I did some Goggling and here is one precedent
Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’
- Ezekiel 33:11
A quote from Clarence Darorow
Darrow is mostly now famous as the proto protagonist of "Inherit the Wind". He was more or less the lead attorney in the Scopes Monkey trial.All men have an emotion to kill; when they strongly dislike some one they involuntarily wish he was dead. I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.
Nice one. Oddly, there is one that is being passed around now that is a paraphrased version of this and another being attributed to Mark Twain. Hahaha.
Good find.
Sorry if it felt I was attacking you rsteinmetz. It's not that way at all. It's just like some people have grammar nazi issues... I get all up in a tizzy about quotes and chain mails. Hahhaa.
macintosh man
Sorry, it was meant for Bob Barker... It's in reference to something that happened earlier in the thread.
The sentiment is fine. I'm totally behind people feeling that way and liking the quote, but MLK never said that. It was attributed to him sometime yesterday and has been posted all over the place since. It's a misquote from a facebook post that had another, actual MLK quote in it.
I have no problem with people feeling all pious and peaceful with this, it's admirable in some ways, but I just think the majority of those people can feel that way out of lack of being in someone else's shoes. I can tell you now, had my daughter/wife/parent/friend died in those attacks and I had the chance I'd have gutted the SOB slowly and painted my face with his blood before hunting down the other pieces of s&*# and breaking all their bones one by one. People telling people who have lost someone to this maniac or have lived under the oppression of his terror for the last decade that they are somehow bad or in the wrong are just as naive and silly as those college kids out on the White House lawn last night.
This guy dying is akin to the breakup of the USSR or the Berlin Wall for some people. He wanted to be a symbol, bigger than a human being, well, he got it. He became an archetype of fear and oppression and to rejoice in something like that being gone is A-OK in my book. They aren't seeing him as a human being at all. And he wasn't.
To put it in perspective (not sure how old you are) but I remember being terrified of nuclear war my entire childhood. It occupied my mind to an unhealthy extent because of all the fear that was generated by the Cold War and the arms race. When the USSR fell I remember just losing it and feeling a huge burden lift. It's not even like the threat was completely gone, but just the fact that this icon of fear was no more was a huge relief and cause for celebration all around the world. Bin Laden was no more human after these 10 years than the band of countries united together as the USSR.
When I was younger I was witness the the discovery of the body of a young, beautiful special education teacher who had been raped repeatedly, had her arms, breasts and legs chopped off and the words "retard lover" carved into her back. When they found the guy he was a popped collar douche who had apparently been drunk the night before and was turned down for a date by the woman. If you can tell me that person deserved anything but eternal pain and damnation you are a better person than me in that respect. There ARE some things in this life that are unforgivable.
You are afforded civil/human rights and when you live with civility and live like a human. You can stretch that a long way, but there is a line you cross. several thousand American dead and many, many more in other countries warrants some relief and jubilation at his demise.
Not sure about all that Dub, but thanks for the compliment!
I just think that it's always easiest to judge from a distance. It's so easy to lose a temper or say/do something hurtful, but the marker that you are human or civil is when later, whether you make it public or not, you feel remorse or humiliation about it.
This man continued to plot death and destruction and never had an inkling of remorse or regret about it. His followers and himself often openly mocked the memory of those people they killed over the course of 10 years. He deserves not better lot in life than to die with the most pain and suffering of the worst among us.