Hey paultvx,

True, liberalism in its essence and by definition isn't bad. But what the word has come to represent now is. Even the liberals don't want to be called liberal anymore - it has developed an undesirable connotation.

BTW, liberalism is generosity, and what it has come to represent is nothing of the sort. Taking from others what is not yours to take and giving it to others to keep them under your thumb and begging for the scraps from your table isn't real noble. Not demonization - just fair criticism.

It was in fact sensible, courageous people who threw off the yoke of King George. Just look at today's liberals who would have us do nothing but appease our enemies when 3,000 of our countrymen are slain. They are WAY naive and spineless. They talk the talk but the conservatives tend to get the job done.

Dude, I bear you no ill will and don't want this to go further so I won't go into the namecalling comment like I could.

Now say something about VXs... heck, tell me mine sucks, I don't care. :-)