need advice- our center bore is not 108mm

[Riff Raff]

In my opinion though, all that will still depend on which tires he plans to use with the new wheels. If it's going to be the Grabbers again (as displayed in his gallery), zero vibration is always going to be difficult to achieve regardless of rim choice.

Huh??? What makes you say that??? What is wrong with the Grabber AT2's and is that what you have??? Please explain!!!

[etlsport]

Probably because all terrain tires don't balance well and will pretty much always be noisy when compared to an ht, st or apt tire

im with you on the WTF test tom.. take the lexus ls460 for example.. factory 19 inch (457.2 mm) wheels.. with a 60.1 mm center bore.. and they are balanced through the center opening... so any imperfections get multiplied 7-8 times by time they hit the outside of the wheel

imho (but have no way to verify) the reason that car wheels typically come with hub centric rings is because on a car, new rims often means low profile tires. in that case any vibration will be felt by the driver because there is very little tire sidewall to absorb it. of course this doesnt apply to guys who go with 22s or larger on their trucks

[Y33TREKker]

Huh??? What makes you say that??? What is wrong with the Grabber AT2's and is that what you have??? Please explain!!!

Probably because all terrain tires don't balance well and will pretty much always be noisy when compared to an ht, st or apt tire

...of course this doesnt apply to guys who go with 22s or larger on their trucks

Unless they also mount an off-road or all-terrain sort of tire too.

[Riff Raff]

Unless they also mount an off-road or all-terrain sort of tire too.

You fail. I also have the Grabber AT2 on my VX and can attest that they run super-true, are extremely quiet, and balance perfectly with minimal weights. Nice try, Popeye.

[Ldub]

You fail. I also have the Grabber AT2 on my VX and can attest that they run super-true, are extremely quiet, and balance perfectly with minimal weights. Nice try, Popeye.

And I used to work at a General dealership, & can attest to the fact that they had a higher failure (adjustment) rate than any other brand we sold...quit recommending crap tires olive oyl...

[Marlin]

You fail. I also have the Grabber AT2 on my VX and can attest that they run super-true, are extremely quiet, and balance perfectly with minimal weights. Nice try, Popeye.

Mine balanced out fine, handled pretty good, but they were LOUD! My kevlars are much quieter than the AT2s were. I will say that the Kevlars handle 10 times better than the AT2s in the p-metric. I understand that the AT2s are half the weight, and only a 2 ply sidewall, where-as mine are a 6 ply sidewall and over 1" thick as well, lending to a much stiffer ride and better street handling. On the other hand, I can buy almost 3 AT2s for the price of one 34" kevlar.

I do think the new AT2 red letters look awesome!!!

Bang for the buck, the AT2s were good, for someone who is gonna rock crawl, I would not recommend them, at least not in the p-metric. Very thin sidewall, but if it was just a DD and a snow truck, I would have no problem with em. They performed great at Moab.

[Y33TREKker]

You fail. I also have the Grabber AT2 on my VX and can attest that they run super-true, are extremely quiet, and balance perfectly with minimal weights. Nice try, Popeye.

No need to get defensive. How can it be considered a fail when all I was saying is that larger off-road tires are by design not meant to be balance-able to the same degree as low-profile high-performance tires?

It seems you are simply taking my statements personally as calling into question your choice of tire when that isn't the case. If you're happy with your choice and have had good luck with the Grabbers, great, but that doesn't mean what I've said about off-road/large-lugged tires is incorrect.

I'm not even going to ask about the Popeye part.