WikiLeaks

[Y33TREKker]

...Or maybe you mean gag orders preventing the reporting of public government proceedings?

An excerpt from that story.

"The right to report parliament was the subject of many struggles in the 18th century, with the MP and journalist John Wilkes fighting every authority – up to the king – over the right to keep the public informed. After Wilkes's battle, wrote the historian Robert Hargreaves, "it gradually became accepted that the public had a constitutional right to know what their elected representatives were up to".

What's amazing is that things should ever get to the point where that should even be questioned.

And I have to finally say it Marlin, give the quote in your sig, I'm surprised you've had such a problem with what Wikileaks says they are attempting to do.

[Marlin]

An excerpt from that story.

What's amazing is that things should ever get to the point where that should even be questioned.

And I have to finally say it Marlin, give the quote in your sig, I'm surprised you've had such a problem with what Wikileaks says they are attempting to do.

What I am saying is that wikileaks is not what they say they are. It is all too convenient and neat. If they have something important, why isn't out yet? Everyone acted surprised that our government was spying on other important world leaders. Wouldn't you be disappointed if they weren't??
My sig is more related to all the ridiculous social programs we have. Our codling of the minority instead of following the wishes of the majority. The encouragement of mediocrity and so on.

[circmand]

Wikileaks is init for their own personal agenda. They have posted this themselves. Anyone deluded to think they are a brand new "news source" That is out there to report news for the good of the people is just plain ignorant. There is a group os greatly deluded people that is always sitting out there waiting for the next populace hero to appear. They jump on band wagon after band wagon that appears. They believe what ever the next "hero says" by that I mean says what they want to hear. They believe it never question it and for thousands of years now refuse to believe they are a group of idiots giving power to the next idiot every time it happens. It just seems to difficult for them to check facts.

[Stephen Biko]

Everyone acted surprised that our government was spying on other important world leaders. Wouldn't you be disappointed if they weren't??

That's an oversimplification. They were spying at the UN in direct contravention of treaties the US government has agreed to. We haven't agreed not to spy in general, just not to abuse the trust that the UN is meant to engender.

My sig is more related to all the ridiculous social programs we have. Our codling of the minority instead of following the wishes of the majority. The encouragement of mediocrity and so on.

Your sig is also wrong. If you think about it for just a second it should be obvious - in Jefferson's time there were no social programs. Gerald Ford said it in 1974. However, in Jefferson's time there was plenty of censorship, that's why protection of the press is the first item in the Bill of Rights. And FYI, at that point in history the term "press" did not refer to journalists, it referred to the printed word as from a press - thus any idea that 'journalists' were singled out as being more free to publish than anyone else is erroneous.

[circmand]

That's an oversimplification. They were spying at the UN in direct contravention of treaties the US government has agreed to. We haven't agreed not to spy in general, just not to abuse the trust that the UN is meant to engender.

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My god that is so funny I busted a gut when I read it. I had to reread it just to make sure someone actually had the balls to post it. I doubt anyone could say it with a straight face though. The UN is the most corrupt organization in the whole worls. Where else cam leaders who torture and kile hundreds of thousands be put in charge of the human rights division. Where else can troops be sent to defend the defenseless end up raping and robbingthose sent to defend. Haiti you have medical problems we will send help that causes you to get even worse diseases and cover it up. Hey you want Sadaam to play nice the UN will run an oil for food program that allows him to purchase weapons. Noth Korea attacks South Korea twice well it must be South Koreas fault for getting attacked. Not to mention the dozens of times they supported terrorist PLA over Israel.

So yeah If we arent going to quit the UN and stop funding it I am all for spying on every evil member or anyone who deals with them. That includes England releasing the Lockerbie bomber for oil rights.

[Stephen Biko]

The UN is the most corrupt organization in the whole worls.

Never fear, mindless hyperbole is here!!!
Or in other words, more of "the enemy of good is perfect" thinking.

So yeah If we arent going to quit the UN and stop funding it I am all for spying on every evil member or anyone who deals with them.

So when they lie and cheat it's corruption, but if you do it in the name of the USA it's fine. Goose, meet gander.

[circmand]

Never fear, mindless hyperbole is here!!!
Or in other words, more of "the enemy of good is perfect" thinking..

Does this mean? It in no way addresses the post. I love when ignorant people quote smart people (out of context) in the hope other people will think they aren't as stupid as they really are.



.[/QUOTE]So when they lie and cheat it's corruption, but if you do it in the name of the USA it's fine. Goose, meet gander.[/QUOTE]

No when they lie and cheat using the USA Tax payer's money it is corruption. When we use any means at our disposal to minimize the damage they cause it is prudence.

[Stephen Biko]

Does this mean? It in no way addresses the post. I love when ignorant people quote smart people (out of context) in the hope other people will think they aren't as stupid as they really are.

Mean this does. Context quote hope out stupid. Really!!!!

No when they lie and cheat using the USA Tax payer's money it is corruption. When we use any means at our disposal to minimize the damage they cause it is prudence.

When we break our promises it is prudence. When they break their promises it is corruption. Mean this does! Mean this does!!!!!