Man, I never thought it had such science involved in it, I'm very thankful for all the info. This is what I love about this forum, you guys give more info then asked and thats always badass, 150% always better then 100%. Thanx again all. Now let me go see what i can do. I'm gonna go for the rear door mount and try to get a mondo size antenna today. I'll post pic's when done, but wont be till the end of the day, gots lots to do, gotta get ready to go camping with my wifey and leave at 1 am tonight to the Blue Ridge Mountains, Georgia.