Nutrition and Health - Proven results w/Science

[Stephen Biko]

As for the donation line: I admit it was worded wrong. What I wanted to get across is I see a member from 2009, marked a Super Vxer, post mainly on topics non auto related and almost only when he disagrees to the fullest extent. Whether that is right or wrong or allowed or frowned upon, you can not blame me for being aggravated in this situation.

Seems like it was worded exactly right to me. You were aggravated by what I had to say so you attacked the messenger with anything you could think of. You might just as well have responded by typing "I HATE YOU" about 500 times in a row.

That is why I asked for it to stop, versus telling him. Even said "could you find it possible" which is quite polite.

If I asked you politely to stop posting in this thread, would you? I don't think so.
Don't you see that as even the least bit narcissistic?
You've made 4x as many posts in this thread as I have, do you also need to shut me up too?

[tom4bren]

I was feeling left out again so felt the need to add to the drivel.

I miss ephedra

Ephedra was my friend.

[circmand]

I was feeling left out again so felt the need to add to the drivel.

I miss ephedra

Ephedra was my friend.

I miss ephedra too. That stuff worked and kept you up

[JHarris1385]

Only the non-selective, beta agonists, alkaloids of ephedra were banned.

[tom4bren]

Only the non-selective, beta agonists, alkaloids of ephedra were banned.

Musta been too many of those when I was a kid. I'm college edumacated n all but I still only heard:

Blah, blah, blah ... ephedra were banned.

sorry Dude, get out your crayons and tell me what that means.

[JHarris1385]

haha....It means you can still purchase ephedra.

It just is not advertised anymore like it was. Most people when they see the word ephedra think of the harms and stray away from it, so it is bad for sales. So companies do not boldly print it anymore.

[circmand]

i still look for mini thins in the convenience stores and they now have cafeine and no ephedra. So since the effective ingredients are taken out that means its banned. That like saying McDonalds cant use beef or sodium anymore but you cab still purchase a Bic Mac, which now of course is ToFurkey and tastes like crap

[JHarris1385]

There is good ephedra that does not effect your brain or circulation like the bad. Ill pm you.

[JHarris1385]

Anybody in here drink diet sodas or use artificial sweeteners such as aspartame?

[VXR]

Anybody in here drink diet sodas or use artificial sweeteners such as aspartame?

No way! That stuff will kill you

[circmand]

No way! That stuff will kill you

There is nothing out there even the air we breath and water we drink that science hasnt had a test that shows its killing us. I give scientists the same credibility I give the media. All they want is to get published and get a government grant so its hype hype hype. In the 70s they all warned us of the coming ice age now its the threat of global warming. What ever happened to the ice age? Now I'm not saying there isnt stuff out there that can kill you Im just saying you cant know what it is because the hype says everything can

[JHarris1385]

Here is a short summary of it:

The gustatory perception (taste) of anything sweet triggers a release of insulin into your bloodstream because your body thinks it needs to deal with sugar. Since there is no sugar to be dealt with, the insulin released causes increased fatty acid synthesis, causing fat cells to take in blood lipids, creating triglycerides. High levels of triglycerides in the bloodstream can cause atherosclerosis as well as increased risk of heart disease and stroke.

Furthermore and in general, drinking diet sodas or using an artificial sweetener is far worse for your body than drinking a regular soda or using natural sweeteners, like sucrose. Most artificially sweetened products contain aspartame to give it a sweet taste. When ingested, aspartame breaks down into various other compounds including Methanol and Formaldehyde


Yup, nothing that tastes good is good for us. I personally can not drink artificial sweeteners due to getting an immediate migraine; same for anything with MSG in it. I can't stand to drink just pure water either, tea is my choice.

To be even more open...I eat pizza or a pizza like sub 4-5 days a week. I was still able to lose weight with this stuff and continue to eat the same. However I have always been an athletic build with probably pretty high metabolism. Pizzas can be made "bad" but overall it is not too bad if you know what you are doing.

[Bob Barker]

Here is a short summary of it:

The gustatory perception (taste) of anything sweet triggers a release of insulin into your bloodstream because your body thinks it needs to deal with sugar. Since there is no sugar to be dealt with, the insulin released causes increased fatty acid synthesis, causing fat cells to take in blood lipids, creating triglycerides. High levels of triglycerides in the bloodstream can cause atherosclerosis as well as increased risk of heart disease and stroke.

Furthermore and in general, drinking diet sodas or using an artificial sweetener is far worse for your body than drinking a regular soda or using natural sweeteners, like sucrose. Most artificially sweetened products contain aspartame to give it a sweet taste. When ingested, aspartame breaks down into various other compounds including Methanol and Formaldehyde


Yup, nothing that tastes good is good for us. I personally can not drink artificial sweeteners due to getting an immediate migraine; same for anything with MSG in it. I can't stand to drink just pure water either, tea is my choice.

To be even more open...I eat pizza or a pizza like sub 4-5 days a week. I was still able to lose weight with this stuff and continue to eat the same. However I have always been an athletic build with probably pretty high metabolism. Pizzas can be made "bad" but overall it is not too bad if you know what you are doing.

This is the first post in this thread that I enjoyed reading.


except for the one about zombies.

[Ascinder]

So what about stevia which south americans have been utilizing since the dawn of time with no adverse effects? Seems like it's sweet with little to no insulin response.

[JHarris1385]

For now I will say this:

You know honestly... I do not know a whole lot on Stevia. Ill get back to you on that. Ill read into it and talk around. Interesting. I have never tried it as I am worried about triggering a migraine. I can however consume organic fructose.

Actually aspartame was first approved in 74 then revoked, then 7 years later re-approved. Revoked due to a neuroscientist findings, then re-approved under what has been said to have been studies with faulty findings on the incorrect parts of the brain and body to the company's benefit.