I can give out small sample packs at my cost if you like. Ill cover shipping. You let me know your goals and I will tell you what is best.
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I can give out small sample packs at my cost if you like. Ill cover shipping. You let me know your goals and I will tell you what is best.
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Also, in addition to D3 I would stop drinking tap water but I don't suggest bottled water either. To meet bottled water compliance it only has be 51% purified and then the rest is up to the companies profits goals of how to fill it.
The newest soon to be addition in all tap water is lithium. Overall they think it will calm us over active Americans down and lower suicide rates....go figure that one out.
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Have you seen the average American. We need something to make us more active.Originally Posted by JHarris1385
"Take it up with my butt, cuz he's the only one that gives a crap"
Carter Pewterschmidt
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No kidding. Its crazy.
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Peer review is a minimum baseline to even begin to be taken seriously. What matters is the quality of the peers doing the reviews. For example, a guy publishing a journal of UFOlogy from his basement could have three of his buddies review his articles and POOF! it's now peer reviewed. In fact, it's probably safe to say that the number one red flag for scamming is the touting of peer review.Seriously before all doubts read the John Hopkins or Pubmed.gov - type in Moringa in the search bar there and look at the 200 articles about it. The are peer reviewed and that means EVERYTHING in science.
If the number of papers on pubmed means anything, I suggest we all light up a doobie because when I typed in "marijuana" I got 15,000+ articles. That's 750 times better than moringa.
Pubmed is just a fancy search engine. Finding a paper in pubmed is just slightly more meaningful than finding a webpage in google.Pubmed is top teir
Neither of those papers are much more than a list of other papers. They are not clinical trials. They are not laboratary tests. The peer review on them - even at top notch journals - would be nothing more than verifying that the cited papers exist.Read or glance through these
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17089328
(National Library of Medicine, NIH (National Institute of Health) peer reviewed))
http://www.oneteamworldwide.com/pdf/...leifera-p1.pdf
(further verification by John Hopkins School of Medicine)
The first article is out of Pakistan. Which makes sense because the plant is a common crop on the subcontinent. But Pakistan isn't known for the high quality of their universities either.
The second article - the one "verified by John Hopkins School of Medicine" was written by the same guy who is chief editor of the journal - Jed Fahey.
Trees for Life Journal - Editorial Board
The journal itself has nothing to do with the JH school of medicine - the only connection is that the editor of the magazine is a research associate there - not a professor, not tenure track. His job is almost certainly funded from outside JHU to run his brocolli lab.
Johns Hopkins Facult List > Jed Fahey (Faculty Research Associate)
Academic Rank in the USA - Wikipedia
Take a look at that website serving up the second article:
One Team Worldwide
With all the rah-rah and sell-sell motivational zija stuff there, it's hard to imagine a more scamalicious website.
This whole idea of a "superfood" is really bunk although the MLM industry would certainly have you believe otherwise. Hell, outside of a couple of specific cases like folic acid for pregnant women, there is little scientific evidence that vitamin supplements will do you any good. Eat healthy - stay away from fast food, including most prepared frozen foods due to the high sodium content, and most people will be fine. Eating like that is the way we evolved, even if such a thing existed, we don't need a superfood to be healthy, just good regular food.
Really? You've gone from a couple of people talking about the results of a couple of studies to assuming that wholesale tinkering with our water supply is a done deal - with no public comment or anything else.Also, in addition to D3 I would stop drinking tap water ...
The newest soon to be addition in all tap water is lithium.
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An there is Monavie, Herbalife, etc...
There are some people at work doing "My Fit Food" program. I think that's the name. http://www.myfitfoods.com/About.asp
I have seen them drop 25-50 pounds in a few months.
It's a matter of healthy eating and working out + determination. There is no magic pill - unless you opt for surgery if you are obese. Watch the "Biggest Loser" and learn how to do it.
Coincidentally I just talked to my neighbor who went from size 36 to 32 in 3 months. High cholesterol and high blood pressure make him change his lifestyle and eating habits. He is also working out 3 times a week.
Once again, there is no magic pill...An yes, I'm 35 lbs over what is supposed to be my normal weight. And I just ate a chocolate bar while writing this. It's so hard to start....
Daniel
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it Was
Speed Thrills, Boredom Kills!!
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Jeeezus Christ-o!
I'm glad you did all that research! I actually read all the links!
and Crotchrocket, ur awesome!
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Will this stuff make me fat ? I looking for a fat diet, chocolate and beer is not helping . One of these days my metabolism is bound to slow down...right ?
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LOL they work for me
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Sorry. there's no Magic Bullet It Always comes down to how many times you lift your elbow to put calories in your mouth in relation to how you move/exercise to burn them off No doubt these supplements are good for your body in general but the multi level marketing and money is the bottom line No magic pill in weight loss but an occasional MaiTai is nice
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For YEARS my aunt was touting the benefits of Tahitian noni juice as if it were religion.
Every time she'd come to visit, we would have to endure the spiel of how it was a miracle super food, how it promoted good health, would cure all...
She once she even claimed that it would cure a stomach ache if you put some of this crap on a cotton ball, & put it in your navel...
Of course I had to ask, "what if you have an outie?"...
Oh, & big surprise, she's now dying of cancer, 6 yrs after a radical mastectomy.
But I really should thank her for making me completely mistrustful of MLM products, & people who say "trust me" before making their point...
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Monavie stops at purely being a concentrated antioxidant, nothing more. You lack the potential nutrients once you concentrate or encapsulate anything that was once raw.
There is a lot to respond to.
I have hard copies of multiple books with studies.
Google it yourself I do not care and try to find them yourself.
Biko - you are sooo right. Schools and and doctors and VERY easily put their names behind something. Because what do they have to lose? Oh wait. They do have something to lose. Their credibility. This has been the case on a local level, once introduced they are skeptical, then they try it for themselves, research it while on it. Then in a month come back and say wow...lets get this going. No wonder we have multiple local doctors leading lectures now on Zija. Not on the sales, but one topic a week of how and why the combination of the ingredients could and will help.
What does it truly matter if J. Fahey is a researcher for John Hopkins and does not teach there? There is no meaning to that, only that you had enough time on your hands to post a couple links saying this guy just does research. You don't teach you just do research all day you must not be a credible as one who chooses to lecture students. Those lists are not who is smarter and who has more credibility more so who is going to get paid more as they would all to be at that that level have the same education or very close to the same. So once again, that meant nothing. Concerning him working with another company or organization, this happens all of the time. Current professors do this. One of mine right now works back in Egypt with some of their national organizations, another works with the American Board of Clinical Chemistry for research...and so on and so on.
You say diet, I mentioned that. Our diet is not the same as it once was. Now I know you can choose to eat the right food, but the "right" food is not what it once was. The nutrients are lost as it is not as potent, and it is not as easy to eat local produce. Our vegetables, raw or frozen are filled with all kinds of cides (pest/herb). Ever wonder why lifestyle diseases are on the rise and there are diseases that where not around back 50 years ago? Or due to the increased estrogen levels in our produce from the herbicide, causing young girls starting puberty as young as six and seven now?
Concerning tap water. I did not say to stop and never drink another ounce or you will suffer lifelong pain. I did say I would stop and and stated what the potential newest addition would be. I did not say there are a couple people talking about it, but thanks for a link that states that, you could have choosen another link and said oh wait, now their are three people talking about it...oh wait now this page has a town talking about it. Just wait and keep your eyes and ears open to it as it would concern me considering if choose to drink tap water I would like to know what I was drinking.
Congratulations on being very google search bar literate.
Considering what might have come off as a sales pitch in the first post or two, I have not been pushy one bit and did not state that everyone has to try it now. But what I have done is just let it flow to me and see who wants to try it or not. I will keep it private but I have been PM'd quite a few times, and they will all tell you I have offered to not sell them a retail junk price or direct them to my website but to actually do it at my cost and eat some plus shipping just so they can see for themselves. If I was purely in it to squeeze out ever penny I would have done otherwise. If I did not believe in it from my personal gains and losses I would not bite the bullet and say hey here is free money if you want it, because that is what it boils down to. Its not lightweight and a .44 stamp will not cut it, I will have to flat rate all of the boxes and I am taking roughly a 30% loss on each one at times. But that is fine with me.
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Once again, since it has not been commented on or I might have missed it.
Stack up on your D3 vitamins. Everyone has ten cents to spare. Keep it gel or liquid.
And yes, before someone posts you don't need this because D3 comes from the sun (which I can go into detail about) or something else, what do you have to lose?
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I would also like to keep this less argumentative if possible. I can see a potential thread hack of just going back and forth, for which I don't have time for and it was not my ideal result.
All I can say is just wait for the ones to try to get their stuff and report back. This may be a while but we will see. If they see or felt ZERO I want them to put that, its fine with me.
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