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    Nutrition and Health - Proven results w/Science

    Alright with the few going back and forth on the "open up" thread about weight loss and health topics concerning with or around nutrition as well...here is what I do/know/share with friends and family. And well really this is a family here just was not sure how many would be interested.

    ...And I knew it would be lengthy post and I was lazy/busy.

    First before I tell you, so that you get the hard facts prior to what I want to share with you.

    Read or glance through these
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17089328
    (National Library of Medicine, NIH (National Institute of Health) peer reviewed))

    http://www.oneteamworldwide.com/pdf/...leifera-p1.pdf
    (further verification by John Hopkins School of Medicine)

    Alright hopefully those two are credible enough for you guys. If not there is a plethora of them.

    - Now you read some sources, but who is telling you and what do I know and who do I associate with. Currently I am working towards now my PHd in Bio/Chem, been accepted to med and dental schools and I have almost completed a medical nutritional degree at the same time. Not to boast, just wanted you to know the source. Now I work almost daily with a team of doctors and one who lectures internationally and focuses on more preventative care versus going to the doc and getting a chemical pill.

    ...You ready.
    Its called Zija
    Its the only company to be able to put all parts of the Moringa Tree in a 100% bio-available and absorbable format.

    Gram for gram here is what it includes in comparison:
    4 times the Calcium of Milk
    4 times the Vitamin A of Carrots
    2 times the Protein of Yogurt
    3 times the potassium of Bananas
    7 times the Vitamin C of Oranges

    In addition:
    Over 90 verifiable nutritional compounds:
    46 - Antioxidants
    36 – Anti-Inflammatories

    Vitamins: A (B-Carotene), B1, B2, B3, Choline, C, D, E, and K

    Minerals: Calcium, Iron, Potassium, Zinc, Copper, Manganese, Magnesium, Phosphorus, Selenium, Sulfur, Chlorophyll

    Omega fatty acids: 3, 6, and 9

    All 8 essential Amino Acids + 10: Isoleucine, Leucine, Lysine, Methionine, Phenylalanine, Threonine, Tryptophan, Valine, Alanine, Arginine, Aspartic Acid, Cystine, Glutamine, Glycine, Histidine, Proline, Serine, Tyrosine

    Supreme Antioxidants: Zeatin, Lutein, Alpha and Beta-carotene, Zeaxanthin, Vitamins A, C, E, Selenium, Zinc, Kaempferol, Quercetin, Rutin, Caffeoylquinic acid and MORE!

    Why it works is simple, your body absorbs it versus a multi vitamin and it is the ONLY to naturally bring that many nutrients to you at one time. The encapsulation nature of a vitamin kills the potency prior to the meld and then once consumed requires too much energy from your body to break it down. Ever wonder why Vitamin C bottles sometimes say 1000%? Ask a sewer worker or a septic tank/porta pot cleaner how many vitamins they see passed.

    We do not get the nutrients from the foods we eat in comparison to years ago. If it is not processed it, it has herbicides, pesticides and so fourth altering the chemical and biological composure of it. The nutrition rates for every vegetable versus years ago is very minimal, we don't eat locally anymore. Its not our fault and we cant help it, it is the way we lived fast paced. As a result that is why we are faced with many lifestyle diseases some of which were either not around in history or are at an alarming rate. America is reactive we go to the doctor when we are sick and get medicine, alot of the rest of the world is more reactive trying to prevent that occurrence.

    For weight loss it catalyzes ketosis in your body to burn adipose tissue (body fat). I can go into WAY more detail if prompted.

    Personally for me I have lost 22 pounds and kept it off for a while now, and I have not had to take any sinus or allergy prescription medicines since. This is a HUGE success for me as Louisville is #1 or #2 year to year on the worst city for them....check http://www.webmd.com/allergies/news/...ring-allergies

    I would like to open this up for you all to post any aliments you may have, from high blood pressure, cholesterol, arthritis, diabetes, ADHD/ADD, fibromyalgia, you name it. I will tell you what I know and what my resources say as well for free. Plus show you a testimony. Post on here or pm me if you like to be discrete.

    Beyond this and for general health. I would easily suggest that everyone stack up on their daily Vitamin D3. Some of you may or may not, but almost all are either not taking enough or not taking. No matter what everyone needs to take about 5,000-10,000 IUs daily. That is roughly only 5-10cents a day. You can go to the doctor if you like and check your levels but like I said it very safe for me to assume you are low. They may say you are ok...as the range is large and you can be ok at 40, but you need to focus to get yourself into the 60-70 range.

    I know some may say this was stupid to post and make comments that I do not have any ground to speak on or something in the negative manner versus my goal of helping. But oh well. I have too many people around me with great results to be afraid. I am very compassionate about this and health in general and I really like to talk about it so feel free to ask for more detail on anything. And once prompted I will post how to try it for yourself.

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    Whatever man, I hate you for your arrogant and demeaning post.

    J/K!!! Though I will poke at you a little; do you also have a job offer from the Zija company to go along with your med/dental school offers? But connect the dots for the layman here, you give all the benefits of this pill, but how do you use it? In combination with nutrition change/diet, or by replacing 1-2 meals with it (a la SlimFast)? Or can I just keep eating pizza, burgers, and ice cream every meal and still lose weight? Fingers crossed...

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    Honestly I did not change my diet...My family does own a pizza shop and I put in alot of time there to help out. I eat a pizza or pizza like sub 3-4 days a week. Your desires will change at times to needing less or you will find yourself (at least I did) wanting fruit more as a snack or leaner meats. This plays into the fact that Moringa fills your body's daily needs much like a bar graph, when one falls your body now acts to get it. This all brings your body to an equilibrium as it has maybe never been before.

    Its much more than weight loss as with the combination of the amino acids, omegas and protein punch, given that your cell walls are lippoprotein barrier it builds your cells stronger.

    Degenerative health conditions are a result of dehydration and oxygen depletions at the cellular level. A cell can die and shrivel up if the membrane wall is weak.

    I personally did not have too much weight to lose I did not think. Well I was wrong. I was a true test. It all honestly came from my gut, which I knew was growing or had grown! It claims to not lose more weight than you need as if you take all three sectors to jump start the weight loss, if you continue all you wont be skin and bones it stops once you reach your optimal stance.

    It is three things:
    A mix that you mix into water - very potent moringa
    A pill you take in the am - moringa, plus energy and catalyst for weight loss
    A tea to help break down the toxins (adipose tissue is a toxin to the body)

    Its all natural, everything.

    And yes I do work with Zija now. Here is my story. I was purchasing it from my doctor, one I work with, and he was buying it from some link the triathlete gave him. Little did he know or I that the tri was getting a kick back from it. So finally he signed up and I did too to order it directly ourselves. You share the story so yours becomes paid for month to month. Its easy as there isn't selling involved more of walking testimonies that people ask what and how, ok I want it.

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    Additional info on D3 - only gel cap or liquid


    Plus this does have a guarantee, I have to use it yet but if you don't like it or don't think it worked you get the money back you spent.

    Seriously before all doubts read the John Hopkins or Pubmed.gov - type in Moringa in the search bar there and look at the 200 articles about it. The are peer reviewed and that means EVERYTHING in science.

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    That first post reads to me like a sales pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barker View Post
    That first post reads to me like a sales pitch.
    it Was
    Speed Thrills, Boredom Kills!!

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    I'll tell you what my problem with Zija is. If you google it the first page of results is full of the MLM/pyramid stuff.

    I'm sure they gave you canned answer for the following question: if the Zija is so great, howcome it's not on the store shelves?

    But can you tell me what great product was ever used as an MLM building mechanism and distributed same way?

    I'm sure everyone noticed that while normally when someone on the forum praises a product it's usually accompanied with a link where the product was purchased. Your post didn't have that. Another red flag -- it's an MLM, stay away.

    I realize this is sort of an open talk section of the forum, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, I don't believe there's a place for the MLM on this forum.
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    I don't know what MLM is...

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    MLM Definition

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Barker View Post
    I don't know what MLM is...
    I had to Google the def because I didn't know what it was either. It means Multi-Level Marketing...aka pyramid scheme, which is illegal...if I understood the definition correctly.
    Return evil for evil to no one...as far as it depends upon YOU, be peaceable with all men. Romans 12:17, 18

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    Mlm

    Quote Originally Posted by Leah View Post
    I had to Google the def because I didn't know what it was either. It means Multi-Level Marketing...aka pyramid scheme, which is illegal...if I understood the definition correctly.
    Is Multi Level Marketing not always the same as pyramid but sometimes it is. That being said I prefer to find stuff I am buying in a brick and mortar store it gives a method to contact in case of dissatisfaction. Even though those stores sell the diet pills and such that come with great results promised with tiny print saying use in conjunction with diet and exercise.

    I myself am woefully over weight but have recently lost 35 pounds. I did it with a combination flu and my favorite bar closing. It did motivate me so that I started dieting and exercising which only kepy me from gaining it back not further weight loss.
    "Take it up with my butt, cuz he's the only one that gives a crap"

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    Yeah, it is multi-level marketing which in the essence is a pyramid. I'm not sure if it's illegal tho, there's plenty of ongoing MLM ventures both in Canada and US.

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    Stangri - First and foremost I did not like the fact either that you are correct with the impression it is like one however, which you will probably say you have heard already. Its not the same. Ok lets say it is exactly the same as and another famous one...what Mary Kay? Thats not a pharmaceutical and it is not a month to month purchase. Its a new economy and businesses are thinking outside of the box. Whether you like them or not Warren Buffet and Bill Clinton are two main supporters of this style. And once again I was not pleased to hear it either, its my personal only flaw with it.

    Another key is there is ZERO quality third party info on anything else like this. You can NOT deny the science behind it. If there was not any of this then I nor the team of doctors would put their name to it.

    Here is the story - it used to be on the shelves for about 2 years, they won't tell you that now. But due to the economy and the overall lack of Americans wanting to try something new it did not sell well. So they switched gears and made it this way as now instead of paying for advertisement they now have people who have tried it sharing their stories.

    I knew I would catch a few heckles, but what it would take is one to embrace it and see for yourself. You can not deny the third party facts. Read into Moring as much as you want. As you can see I did not push a try this buy it now. I knew we are internet savy here and would google it, I am not dumb. I wanted you all to find out for your self.

    If you take anything away from this...at least take some D3. At least I can help there.
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    I found this info very interesting...

    I have a nasty gluten intolerance, so over the years, I have not been getting the benefit/nutrients from the food I eat. On top of that, I usually get headaches and stomach cramps just minutes after eating... no fun!

    Even though doctors can't confirm this, I believe this is an underlying cause of my massive spine degradation and as to why my body is very inflexible.

    jharris, are there any fillers in the product that would react with my gluten intolerance? I am interested in this product... I definately need some extra help in getting nutrients into my body, instead of everything just "passing through"...
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    There would be no reactors with your gluten intolerance. Also it should help with your spine pain as I assume there would be with the degradation of it with the anti inflamatories. Ill PM you.

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    Agree that this has all the hallmarks of an MLM/pyramid scheme, though I would point out that those business structures are not illegal, but are significantly more controlled than they were in say the 1970s and 80s. You may already know, but Amway is still very much in business and has done so by spinning off child companies (Britt World Wide is one) that focus on a particular market segment. Another way businesses avoid the MLM/pyramid black eye is by no longer requiring "entrepreneurs" to buy their product up front and sell it, as well as by eliminating the "recruit other entrepreneurs to work underneath you" system. Essentially these folks now act as individual third party sales people that simply point potential customers towards a website to order. I would argue that the last strategy is no different than what we do on this forum; someone finds a good cladding treatment (mike nomy for example) then shares the story and pushes the rest of us to try it. So it's not like this type of post is unprecedented, and he did post it in the "Chit chat - Non VX" forum group, so I think crying foul is unwarranted.

    All that said, I would be cautious of these studies. Amway had/has tons of studies that demonstrated that their toothpastes, cosmetics, etc. were the best thing out there; but it turns out most of those were less-than-reliable sources. But if this thing has been reviewed/recommended in the New England Journal of Medicine, etc., maybe it is legit.

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