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    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    I had the same experience, the SBC brackets made a huge difference in the passenger side but didn't make as much difference on the driver's side (still have to "help" the window up). It goes up just fine after it gets about 2 inches out of the door, but IMHO that's still not good enough. The guys at the shop I use kind of see my VX as a pet project (they love working on something besides Taurus's and Civics) so they asked if I could leave it overnight next time for them to experiment. Who knows, maybe they'll come up with something to augment the brackets.

    Stay (patiently) posted.
    Mine goes up fin until the last 4 or 5 inches. Thats when it binds...boo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Also went ahead and did the drivers window bracket with the SBC brackets. DIdn't help the drivers window go up any better Actually I think its worse now I tried sliding the glass around, might have to try and push it forward in the slots some more.
    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    I had the same experience, the SBC brackets made a huge difference in the passenger side but didn't make as much difference on the driver's side (still have to "help" the window up). It goes up just fine after it gets about 2 inches out of the door, but IMHO that's still not good enough.
    Well, this sounds familiar.

    The previous owner had installed the SBC brackets before I bought the VX. The passenger side works perfectly but the driver's side would still twist forward while being raised. Silicone spray made it work great for about a month, and a second application helped when it needed again later, but was the result was not nearly as good. A few weeks ago I took the window out while replacing the lock assembly.

    When I reinstalled the window, the twisting was the worst ever until I slid the SBC bracket as far toward the door hinges as possible. No more twisting, but now I get a little wind noise on the highway. There is also a worrying "thunk" as the window completely closes that makes me think the top of the window is not aligned properly with the upper channel. Seems to be a fine balancing act.

    I would have kept trying to find the sweet spot, but there is so much slop throughout the entire regulator assembly that I was left with the impression that it is just plain ol' worn out. (Lots of speculation on my part since this is the first time I ever played with "door guts.") Once I have time to mess around with it again, I intend on comparing it to the passenger side regulator before I actually start shopping for a replacement.


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    Just when I thought you couldn't make your VX any uglier...and then you go and do something like this......AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by RickOKC View Post
    Well, this sounds familiar.

    The previous owner had installed the SBC brackets before I bought the VX. The passenger side works perfectly but the driver's side would still twist forward while being raised. Silicone spray made it work great for about a month, and a second application helped when it needed again later, but was the result was not nearly as good. A few weeks ago I took the window out while replacing the lock assembly.

    When I reinstalled the window, the twisting was the worst ever until I slid the SBC bracket as far toward the door hinges as possible. No more twisting, but now I get a little wind noise on the highway. There is also a worrying "thunk" as the window completely closes that makes me think the top of the window is not aligned properly with the upper channel. Seems to be a fine balancing act.

    I would have kept trying to find the sweet spot, but there is so much slop throughout the entire regulator assembly that I was left with the impression that it is just plain ol' worn out. (Lots of speculation on my part since this is the first time I ever played with "door guts.") Once I have time to mess around with it again, I intend on comparing it to the passenger side regulator before I actually start shopping for a replacement.
    The guys at my garage want to experiment with this same idea since they shared your observations (mostly that OEM tracks are crap even new out of the box) the last time I had it in the shop. Their idea is to leave the SBC bracket in place, but glue a tire weight or two to the part of the glass closest to the B pillar / door jam to keep the glass from leaning forward. We'll see how it goes.

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    I was at an Autozone today getting some parts and there was a guy with a Jeep that was done complely with Line-X in blue and black on the flares and bumpers, looked good for a jeep, lol, anyway talked to him and he said it ran him 2300, the guy had taken all hinges and stuff off before he did the job and did a great job with the umpers and all.

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    Well, its been a few months, thought I would update. It has been covered in mud, pressure washed a few times, and I just ran it through the car wash machine. No problems on the painted surfaces. The hood insert however is peeling off. I did not do any prep other than cleaning on the insert. I will pressure wash it off and sand it with 60 grit. I went ahead and put the UV top coat on today as well. Looks shiny and new!!! I will update a few months from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vt_maverick View Post
    The guys at my garage want to experiment with this same idea since they shared your observations (mostly that OEM tracks are crap even new out of the box) the last time I had it in the shop. Their idea is to leave the SBC bracket in place, but glue a tire weight or two to the part of the glass closest to the B pillar / door jam to keep the glass from leaning forward. We'll see how it goes.
    Ash,

    You may want to re-read this thread for some other ideas for your windows.

    http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ow+fixin+party
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    Just my opinion: If you want to use a DIY bedliner, then OK, but I would not recommend Herculiner. Herc contains little rubber bits that tend to make the surface....not so attractive.

    This guy applied Herc to the plastic bed rail caps. You can see what I mean about the rubber bits.

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    I understand, but you are comparing 80 bucks to do my entire truck, to 1000 plus to do my truck in Linex or rhino line. I don't think those products are 10 times better than herculiner.
    Plus, the little bits that stick up work great at hiding scratches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    I understand, but you are comparing 80 bucks to do my entire truck, to 1000 plus to do my truck in Linex or rhino line. I don't think those products are 10 times better than herculiner.
    Plus, the little bits that stick up work great at hiding scratches
    No, my comment was not about LINE-X at all, it's about DIY bedliner products. I'm just recommending that you choose a product that does not contain the rubber bits. That's it...
    Last edited by LINE-X : 12/08/2010 at 12:16 PM

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    Quote Originally Posted by LINE-X View Post
    No, my comment was not about LINE-X at all, it's about DIY bedliner products. I'm just recommending that you choose a product that does not contain the rubber bits. That's it...
    Gotcha, unfortunately, Heculiner has brilliant marketing and is the only roll-on DIY bedliner kit that you can get off the shelf at just about any store that sells auto stuff. Its convenient availability makes it an easy choice. If I get a scratch, its easy to touch up and blend in and I can get it anywhere. I know there are some other really good ones, like monstaliner and a few others, but can't get them at the store

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Gotcha, unfortunately, Heculiner has brilliant marketing and is the only roll-on DIY bedliner kit that you can get off the shelf at just about any store that sells auto stuff. Its convenient availability makes it an easy choice.(
    There are TONS of DIY products that are easily available at stores. Even if you live out in the boonies (no stores), they ALL are available over the web. Duplicolor (Autozone, Walmart), Durabak, U-Pol Raptor, SEM, Monstaliner, Rustoleum (not the spray paint), Hippo, Plasti-Cote, Napa Finish 1, the list is endless. As far as durability goes, I don't think one is much better than the other, they are all very similiar products.

    Yes, Herculiner has lots of advertising. Herculiner is manufactured in South Africa by Duram Paint for Old World Industries who owns Peak brand antifreeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LINE-X View Post
    There are TONS of DIY products that are easily available at stores. Even if you live out in the boonies (no stores), they ALL are available over the web. Duplicolor (Autozone, Walmart), Durabak, U-Pol Raptor, SEM, Monstaliner, Rustoleum (not the spray paint), Hippo, Plasti-Cote, Napa Finish 1, the list is endless. As far as durability goes, I don't think one is much better than the other, they are all very similiar products.

    Yes, Herculiner has lots of advertising. Herculiner is manufactured in South Africa by Duram Paint for Old World Industries who owns Peak brand antifreeze.
    The only roll on available on the shelf is herculiner. Duplicolor is alright, I use that on my frame and sliders and whatnot, so when it gets scratched, just spray it on again.

    I have found that the Herculiner is much thicker, for example, if it dries on something, you can peel it off in one continuous sheet that is fairly thick, the spray on stuff just kind of flakes off, more like paint than a rubber product.
    I do understand that many others are available on the web, but for instant gratification purposes and bang for the buck, 1 gallon of herculiner can do all of the cladding on the VX and the hood insert, with more than one coat.

    Just for curiosity's sake, What would it cost to do all the cladding and hood insert on the VX with Line-x, in black, with the UV inhibitor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlin View Post
    Just for curiosity's sake, What would it cost to do all the cladding and hood insert on the VX with Line-x, in black, with the UV inhibitor?
    Bump for response from Line-X dealer.

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    I don't have a final price yet. Were trying a few different things regarding adhesion. In addition, we found out there's a lot of 3M double stick tape used on the cladding that will have to be replaced, that will add to the price. I'll sure let you know once we figure it out. Were also waiting on some replacement cladding clips. It's almost impossible to remove the cladding without breaking some of them. It's fairly obvious that Isuzu designed the clips to be easily replaceable.

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