These end in front of the cats so the Y pipe does not get touched. They are not CARB approved so there could be inspection issues in some states and it states some fabrication (piping) may be required but it does day the engine management connections are there (EGR?)

I spent a long weekend and lots of $$ to try out Bob Land’s short tube headers and was one of the biggest headaches I’ve ever had, only to have the Dyno show little to no improvement. It IS tight around the engine and I did have to jack it up to get the stock manifolds off and the headers on. Long tube might be a bit easier to install but I’m not up for it.