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BigMeatVX ATTN!!!! 5 SPEED SWAP W/TOD... 04/04/2010, 09:23 AM
etlsport how much did the whole swap... 04/04/2010, 09:40 AM
BigMeatVX Costs: Used Trooper... 04/04/2010, 10:01 AM
rowhard Sweet. Does the TOD work like... 04/04/2010, 01:28 PM
Marlin You ROCK!!!! Once again... 04/04/2010, 02:16 PM
Riff Raff ROWHARD--- According to... 04/04/2010, 02:31 PM
ZEUS AWESOME! See ya put it to use... 04/04/2010, 05:03 PM
VXorado I'm impressed and... 04/04/2010, 06:21 PM
don moore hmmmmmm... 04/04/2010, 08:52 PM
tomdietrying Well done! Peace. Tom 04/04/2010, 09:06 PM
Ldub A GOOD JOB 04/04/2010, 10:33 PM
Sprey x2 on the Well done !!! ... 04/05/2010, 12:27 AM
blacksambo Congratulations! Well done.... 04/05/2010, 07:45 PM
Ascinder That would have been really... 04/05/2010, 07:54 PM
BigMeatVX I thought the Rodeo clutch... 04/05/2010, 09:28 PM
WormGod Great job BigMeat. Hell of an... 04/06/2010, 06:58 AM
LiquidVX Seriously, this is... 04/07/2010, 06:35 AM
AK Falco la ha on monday night? 04/07/2010, 06:10 PM
rowhard If your interested ... 04/07/2010, 07:36 PM
spitfire5454 This is outstanding news. ... 04/07/2010, 09:37 PM
vt_maverick Even if it's not, it costs... 04/08/2010, 04:44 AM
Dumke What happened to the meet and... 04/15/2010, 04:33 PM
jdm monkey Will the rodeo MT fit too? 04/13/2010, 07:52 PM
vt_maverick He must have sworn them all... 04/15/2010, 07:06 PM
BigMeatVX Thats a damn good... 04/20/2010, 07:36 PM
BigMeatVX Update....For those curious... 05/17/2010, 01:57 PM
RamAirZ I would think the rodeo one... 04/15/2010, 10:47 PM
LiquidVX :_confused Have we been... 04/16/2010, 06:52 PM
LiquidVX Whats going on here? BM drops... 04/17/2010, 09:10 PM
RamAirZ That sucks, but it seems... 04/17/2010, 09:59 PM
Ldub :_thinking...From the first... 04/17/2010, 10:18 PM
RamAirZ I meant by swapping in an... 04/17/2010, 11:02 PM
Ldub :laughing: Guess I wasn't... 04/17/2010, 11:08 PM
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LiquidVX The TOD is what has me all... 04/18/2010, 06:02 AM
jdm monkey I guess we'll soon find out.... 04/18/2010, 08:34 AM
LiquidVX Great. Keep us posted with... 04/18/2010, 09:55 AM
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jdm monkey I looked at the firewall... 04/19/2010, 07:43 AM
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ZEUS I was lucky enough to get... 05/18/2010, 02:00 PM
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    ATTN!!!! 5 SPEED SWAP W/TOD DONE!

    Ok, so heres the story....

    After blowing thru 3, yes 3, automatics, I decided to finally go for the 5 speed swap.

    For those of you that have been around a while, I would have done this swap long ago, if I had not been misinformed by "know-it-alls" on here claiming that this exact swap just was NOT possible!!!

    After a bit of research, I concluded that I could indeed use the AR5 out of a newer Trooper. The Trooper, with the manual option, was only availble with a standard style transfer case, (No TOD) So...I needed to mate this tranny up to my stock TOD transfer case.

    This is a DIRECT bolt in swap!!!!
    All parts are OEM!!!! EVEN the DRIVELINES are the SAME!!!!

    Here is a list of needed items....

    AR 5 manual 5 speed (1998-2001 Trooper)
    Isuzu 3.5 Flywheel (3.2 will work if you have it turned)
    New flywheel bolts OEM
    Trooper clutch set (preasure plate, disk, T. O. Berring) OEM ONLY!!!!
    Trooper input shaft pilot berring
    New clutch preasure plate bolts OEM
    Isuzu Rodeo Clutch master cylinder (1998-2001)
    Isuzu Rodeo clutch pedal assembly (98-01)
    Isuzu Trooper clutch slave cylinder (1998-2001)
    Clutch hydraulic lines.
    Trooper computer (manual tranny model 98-00)
    Trooper shifter boots

    Reccomended... New rear main seal
    Optional...Trooper manual tranny exhaust system



    Remove your old auto and transfer case, T. Converter, flexplate, pilot bushing from crank, and drivelines, exhaust, computer, shifter assembly...ect...


    Remove blocking plate frome firewall (2 bolts) where clutch master cylinder will go.


    install master cylinder, clutch pedal, hydraulic lines.
    Install rear main seal, input pilot berring, Flywheel, disk, preasure plate

    On the shifter assembly in the TOD transfer case, The metal top cover with 4 bolts will need to be removed and clearanced 1/4".
    As you try to slide the AR5 into the TOD case, you will see where the shifter hits just slightly. This is the area that needs to be "trimmed" just a small amount. (I used a 4" angle grinder) took me 5 minute to remove 1/4"...

    After that, you will be able to slide the two cases together..bolt cases together using the old TOD bolts you removed.

    Install the Throw out bering in the input shaft...(do not remove wedge collar!!!) Do not install T.O. Berring on preasre plate!!!!

    Install new gearbox and TOD unit as one...install slave,crossmember,drivelines,exhaust...ect..hook up computer...You will have to re-route some fuel lines. (bend and re-attach to tranny)

    Have someone help bleed out the hydraulic system

    On the old wiring harness, you will have to cut into the plug that used to go to the shifter switches (on auto tranny) isollate the black and blue/blk wires and connect them together. (this tells the computer you are in Park or Nuetrall, so the starter will engage)

    Also you will need to find the reverse switch on the new gearbox and wire it up to the revers wires, so the reverse lights will work...

    Lastly, the One of the oxygen sensors was moved to a different location (befor the CAT) on the trooper, so you may want to swap to Trooper exhaust or have a shop install the sensor ahead of one of the Cats...


    Driving the manual trannied VX is AWESOME!!! More controll, power.
    Power and shifting seems VERY similar to a 90s era 5.0lt 225HP mustang!!! VERY FUN! 0-60 times has surely dropped.
    Everything feels more "DIRECT"...
    The TOD functions just as it did with the AUTO...
    Fuel Mileage has increased...figure 2-3 mpg better!
    Duralbility...The Trooper clutch is HUGE...a 10.4" plate with 1700#s clamping force...(1 Ton style) however, due to the Pull-type design, pedal effort is light! (Pull style clutches are AWESOME, usually used on exotics) And have 30% less pedal effort than older push style systems...
    The AR5 is a well build gearbox with 3 sycro rings (not 2) for smooth quick shifts, even with large heavy-duty clutch disks.


    Feel free to ask questions or comment...
    Last edited by BigMeatVX : 04/04/2010 at 10:04 AM

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