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Thread: Ascinder's 1-Ton VX... Cont'd

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    Hey now! What I said was... Move the front axle forward & tilt the drivetrain downward at the t-case. Especially if you are still determined to move the drivetrain backward with a doubler! Then maybe you would not have to cut as much of the firewall & tunnel & your u-joint angle would allow you to pivot the 14B pinion up at the same angle. ...ok, I did not Say ALL that, but it was inferred! Haha I for one appreciate the detailed explanation of what you are buying and why. Did you basically research each part of the steering system and write out your own explanation of how it works in a build thread form in order to keep track of it all? Or is this part of helicopter service work? Something tells me you have been writing this section of your build for quite some time! Pretty funny that I was also the guy that said, "So moving the family to Montana is the most important priority, right?" Haha NOPE! SHOP TIME! "It's winter", he says.

    BTW... I never told you this but the last time I was at your apartment I noticed all those books in your book case... Mathematics, Metallurgy, Mechanics, etc... yet the one book I picked up was about Physics... imagine my surprise; hidden within it was a Hustler magazine! Haha BUSTED!

    What 3D program are you using?
    Sent from my "two hands on a keyboard"

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    Did you basically research each part of the steering system and write out your own explanation of how it works in a build thread form in order to keep track of it all?
    Yeah, pretty much that. I need stuff like this for me as much as anyone else. Trying to keep track of all the moving parts and specs over the years takes a toll. Especially when you consider how many other projects I have. It also gives me some insight into how and why I made my decisions when I look back at it over time. If new tech materializes or something is found to work differently I can instantly compare without having to try and dig up old specs and research on the net.

    Hey now! What I said was... Move the front axle forward & tilt the drivetrain downward at the t-case. Especially if you are still determined to move the drivetrain backward with a doubler! Then maybe you would not have to cut as much of the firewall & tunnel & your u-joint angle would allow you to pivot the 14B pinion up at the same angle. ...ok, I did not Say ALL that, but it was inferred!
    I think I am going with a double cardan (CV) driveshaft front and rear. It requires you to point the axles and pinions directly at the transfer case yokes while the transfer case yokes stay at zero degrees.

    Here's a "regular" setup:





    Here's a double cardan "CV" setup:






    CV driveshafts also allow a lot more articulation than conventional setups. The pinion angle on a CV driveshaft is a good thing as well as it pushes the vulnerable pinion up away from the rocks.

    Up front it is a bad thing for me because between the caster angles the kingpins are supposed to be set at(usually ~6-8 degrees but can be 15-20 degrees on full hydro setups) and the pinion angle being pushed up towards the transfer case yoke, the behind the axle hydro steering setup I am planning on running might be out of space and fighting angles that may not work out. That's next up in the 3D modeling box.

    For driveshafts, the two front runners I am considering are Tom Woods and High angle Driveline. they both make "over the top" shafts that excel at both strength and articulation.

    Something tells me you have been writing this section of your build for quite some time!
    Nope, all in my head, just hadn't committed it to a post. It took me a couple hours at work to pull all the associated resources. I need to get a "manual" created for this build, again so I can keep track of all the various part numbers, fitting sizes, dimensions, torques, etc. Some of these things can be difficult to track down later, and if something breaks or needs replacement, you at least have a starting point.

    Pretty funny that I was also the guy that said, "So moving the family to Montana is the most important priority, right?" Haha NOPE! SHOP TIME! "It's winter", he says.
    Montana is still on the table, and it would be easier to work on the VX with no interference and more space....


    BTW... I never told you this but the last time I was at your apartment I noticed all those books in your book case... Mathematics, Metallurgy, Mechanics, etc... yet the one book I picked up was about Physics... imagine my surprise; hidden within it was a Hustler magazine! Haha BUSTED!

    That was being used as a bookmark I swear!

    What 3D program are you using?
    An old copy of Sketchup 2015, nothing special. Here's where I left off last night. The crossmembers are very rough because there is no good data on them. If I remember and if I still care, I will try and clean them up a bit once I'm home at some point and can get measurements.

    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable man persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on me.

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