I understand that I suppose. My wife doesn't "chit in the woods" either. I guess to me camping is "camping". A fire, a tent, some hot dogs (or Beddar Cheddars..mmmm), beer, friends and a sky full 'o' stars is what it's all about.

Taking along a camper with a TV and a bed and a shower and a toilet and all sorts of other stuff is just way too much. Not to mention, way to big and way to expensive. I just don't get it.

But then, you are talking to a person who HATES "campsites" as well. What's the point of getting away when you have hundreds of other people around you? That's not camping either, imo. That's just sleeping outside with a bunch of strangers.

To me, the 2 main goals of camping are:
1) Being outside 100% of the time
2) Getting as far away from other human beings as possible.

The sub goals would be:
3) Seeing things you have never seen before
4) Hiking and exploring
5) Observing and photographing animals and nature

I'll give you a perfect example. MOAB. When I go to Moab, I would MUCH rather stay in a hotel. The Portal is cool because there are lots of ZuZu friends there, and its cheaper than a hotel, but its not really a good place to camp, imo. Now, if I could wheel out into the back country and camp among the red rocks, now that would be something. And you can't do that in a "camper".

Bart

PS - I hate towing. I don't wanna tow ANYTHING EVER.