4 Officers shot near Lakewood WA

[djvx]

... and I'll be waiting for the day when one more of such "carriers" gets crazy and shot innocent people. Or his kids accidentally shot neighborhood dog using his gun.

always wanted to see the statistics on how many innocent people were killed by easily accessible weapons vs how many lives were saved by them [easily accessible weapons]

Hey ZubrAZ, One of the cops shot back, and hit the shooter in the gut. And maybe if others in the restaraunt had guns they could have shot and KILLED the shooter before he got away. . . Go take a gun shooting class or learn about the subject a little more. Your opinion sounds quite uninformed.

[circmand]

Not to pile on but while you are waiting for a legally armed citizen to screw up and accidentally shoot an inocent bystander illegally armed armed felons are shooting and killing people all over the country. Face it the are enough laws on the books about fire arms and other stuff. Its just that criminals do not obey the laws. So new laws limiting law abiding citizens even further will make us easier targets not safer. While more laws may make you feel safer because you ignore the common sense result it is not a reason for me to be less protected.

[pbkid]

Hey ZubrAZ, One of the cops shot back, and hit the shooter in the gut. And maybe if others in the restaraunt had guns they could have shot and KILLED the shooter before he got away. . . Go take a gun shooting class or learn about the subject a little more. Your opinion sounds quite uninformed.

umm..... every report i heard said that all the officers were armed.......
did i hear the wrong report?

[RabidPony]

umm..... every report i heard said that all the officers were armed.......
did i hear the wrong report?

He means what if some of the other patrons had guns. The perp knew the police were armed and used the element of surprise to neutralize them before they could really retaliate. However, if one or more of the cafe's other patrons had been armed, they could have eliminated him then and there. Possibly saving the life of one or more of the officers.

I would love to be able to carry but getting your permit in California takes an act of God.

[pbkid]

He means what if some of the other patrons had guns. The perp knew the police were armed and used the element of surprise to neutralize them before they could really retaliate. However, if one or more of the cafe's other patrons had been armed, they could have eliminated him then and there. Possibly saving the life of one or more of the officers.
ya, this is truely sad. one more argument for keeping CWL's around

I would love to be able to carry but getting your permit in California takes an act of God.

really sad. this is the kinda stuff that causes cops to be overly cautious and seem like a-holes.