4 Officers shot near Lakewood WA

[KeithVXlvr]

... and I'll be waiting for the day when one more of such "carriers" gets crazy and shot innocent people. Or his kids accidentally shot neighborhood dog using his gun.

always wanted to see the statistics on how many innocent people were killed by easily accessible weapons vs how many lives were saved by them [easily accessible weapons]

ZubraAZ - You are an idiot; shown by your comments. I have a great idea, let’s make guns illegal, I am pretty sure the criminals will turn them in and not create a huge black market for ammunition and guns as well...

Go get 'em Riff Raff !!!!!

[ZubrAZ]

nfpgasmask, i'll appreciate your efforts if you'll help me to find those stats

[nfpgasmask]

nfpgasmask, i'll appreciate your efforts if you'll help me to find those stats

Unfortunately, my company has blocked all sites related to guns and weapons (go figure, gotta love corporate censorship) so I can't get to any gun sites, but I'm sure if you do a search you will find lots of sites with stories of self defense with a concealed weapon.

Anyway, somehow this site is open and has some info:
http://www.nraila.org/ArmedCitizen/Default.aspx

I guess I just don't understand why there is such a movement against guns. Yes, they are devices designed with a single, clearly defined purpose. But this country was founded on the freedoms many people take for granted. And it was also born of violence. There is no utopia. There never will be, so long as humankind inhabits this planet. And like I said before, a little danger is fun. Who wants to live in a completely sterile society where everything is illegal except TV and video games and fast food???

Sorry, but there is no convincing me that the world can be a better place.

Bart

[VXR]

On the Huckabee thing, that has been discussed in the news as well. He came out and said he feels bad about this and feels like he's to blame. But he said that they sent letters out to find out whether the guy's sentence should be commuted to the prosecutor, judge, PD, and two other groups. The judge said he should be commuted, and one of the other groups, the rest did not respond. Huck said he had about 1200 of these a year, and tried to research all of them. The guy was sentenced to 100+ years of prison at the age of 16. The commuted sentence was cut in half I believe, and made him available for parole. Everyone thought the sentence was too heavy, even the judge. So Huckabee listened to their recommendations...
I blame the killer, not Huckabee.
My .02

not if you believe this guy:

Pulaski County Prosecutor Larry Jegley, whose office opposed Clemmons' parole in 2000 and 2004, said Huckabee's comments were "red herrings."

"My word to Mr. Huckabee is man up and own what you did," Jegley said

If only politics was about reasoning and not soundbytes, maybe the general public would share the same opinion in 2012. But somehow I think he'll more likely be portrayed as an irresponsible accessory to murder

This is not the first person he let out who ended up killing someone.

[vt_maverick]

This is not the first person he let out who ended up killing someone.

Makes you miss G-Dub doesn't it? I'm pretty sure I read that he let every inmate on death row fry during his tenture as TX governor. No exceptions.

[pbkid]

I guess I just don't understand why there is such a movement against guns. Yes, they are devices designed with a single, clearly defined purpose. But this country was founded on the freedoms many people take for granted. And it was also born of violence. There is no utopia. There never will be, so long as humankind inhabits this planet. And like I said before, a little danger is fun. Who wants to live in a completely sterile society where everything is illegal except TV and video games and fast food???

Sorry, but there is no convincing me that the world can be a better place.

Bart

x2....

i would MUCH rather have a chance to protect myself than just be a unarmed moving target.....f-that....

ill keep my guns, and ill keep em close