First post is a sad one - engine died

[VX crazy]

Sorry to hear of your engine expiration. Since you're so close to Saint Louis though, I don't know if the St. Charles dealership would be willing to do anything about it seeing as how Isuzu tended to turn a blind eye to this problem, but you never know.

Regardless, if in need of any parts to get the rig back on the road, don't hesitate to at least give Merlin a call at St. Charles Isuzu. He's got the parts hookup, and can save you some $$$ if you mention www.vehicross.info.

Isuzu cant make you check your oil levels to be sure they dont get too low though.....

[Y33TREKker]

Isuzu cant make you check your oil levels to be sure they dont get too low though.....

Oil levels shouldn't have needed to be checked so often on newer engines in the first place. Not all the Isuzu engines that expired took this many years to happen. (And not all engines that expired had a lot of mileage on them either, but since rjonchan hasn't stated the mileage on his engine at the time it gave up the ghost, his case is impossible to classify at the moment).

And it was a design flaw (or actually, a combination of flawed engine control systems) that caused the problems in the first place. Otherwise, Isuzu would have just kept putting the same piston rings back in as were originally used, and people wouldn't have started jury-rigging their EGR systems.

You're of course free to defend Isuzu about this specific issue if you want, but I've personally read too many stories on this site about owners who were pretty much left hung out to dry by Isuzu in cases like rjonchan's. That's not saying all owners who had this happen were, or that everyone at Isuzu should be grouped into the same category, but the powers that be at the time could have handled more of these occurences better than they actually did.

I mean, didn't it actually get to the point that there a class-action petition towards Isuzu being circulated years back regarding issues such as this? That type of thing doesn't usually happen because everyone is satisfied with the service they've received, or that should have been reasonably expected.

[rjonchan]

Mine had 104,000 - I'm not in any way mechanically-inclined, but I don't think that is very high miles. Also have a 1997 Mit. 3000-GT that has 240,000 and still runs great...but I was at fault for not keeping a closer eye on the oil...I luv the dang thing, was about to put the Lucerne nerf bars and try the modified Mercedes grillguard on the front, hope I still get the chance...

[VX crazy]

Oil levels shouldn't have needed to be checked so often on newer engines in the first place. Not all the Isuzu engines that expired took this many years to happen. (And not all engines that expired had a lot of mileage on them either, but since rjonchan hasn't stated the mileage on his engine at the time it gave up the ghost, his case is impossible to classify at the moment).

And it was a design flaw (or actually, a combination of flawed engine control systems) that caused the problems in the first place. Otherwise, Isuzu would have just kept putting the same piston rings back in as were originally used, and people wouldn't have started jury-rigging their EGR systems.

You're of course free to defend Isuzu about this specific issue if you want, but I've personally read too many stories on this site about owners who were pretty much left hung out to dry by Isuzu in cases like rjonchan's. That's not saying all owners who had this happen were, or that everyone at Isuzu should be grouped into the same category, but the powers that be at the time could have handled more of these occurences better than they actually did.

I mean, didn't it actually get to the point that there a class-action petition towards Isuzu being circulated years back regarding issues such as this? That type of thing doesn't usually happen because everyone is satisfied with the service they've received, or that should have been reasonably expected.

Not defending Isuzu.....just stating fact that had the oil level been maintained.....

[Y33TREKker]

Not defending Isuzu.....just stating fact that had the oil level been maintained.....

Of course, although at the time, and trying to at least give a guy the benefit of the doubt, we hadn't known if adequate maintenance had been kept up.

And I in turn was just letting rjonchan know that because of the history of similar failures of these engines, it could be mentioned at St. Charles Isuzu (if he/she decided to take it there) to see if they might be one of the few Isuzu dealerships who might opt to admit there was a problem, and make the situation right. You never know what results may be achieved by simply being aware of that type of information.

[rjonchan]

You're right, definitely nothing to lose by trying...I was at fault for not checking oil level before driving 8 hours, but with a 4yr old and a 5 yr old hyped up on Halloween candy, business calling saying drink station's not working, ex-wife calling telling me not to forget to bring back a single hair bow...well, you get the picture..oil level got pushed to the back burner..I will mention to Isuzu, thanks - Jon