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    Quote Originally Posted by VX crazy View Post
    Maybe you are just frustrated right now because of recent problems.......and it may not be a good time to make a decision?? LOL
    2nd that one too. But, you could always list the VX for sale to see what kind of interest there might be, and since it usually takes awhile to find a potential buyer anyway, you'd be able to give the current situation more thought in the meantime.

    There's another way to look at this anyway. Rather than be sad that life is conspiring to try to make you sell something you obviously don't want to sell and throw in the , get angry that life is conspiring to try to make you sell something you obviously don't want to sell and FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT!!

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    I have definitely thought the same thing many of times, as most of us here have probably thought, but it is not only what kind of money you will be loosing making a new car payment it is the money lost in the investments you made on your VX. Once a mod goes onto a vehicle you will never see that money back, but you don't loose the value personally unless you sell it. $300-$400 payment every month on a new (used) car would pay for lots of rentals and lots of repair bills on a paid for car. At this point it just sounds like you are frustrated and tired of dealing with car "issues". Which is totally understandable, we all here have had those moments when the VX was in the shop and we were planning on how to sell it, but just remember those first few moments behind the wheel of the newly fixed VX, remember that feeling, no car will ever be perfect, no car will ever be maintanence free, it is your choice which car to gamble with and invest into, my choice for a long time will be my paid for VX We totally understand your thought process though

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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleBeast View Post
    I have definitely thought the same thing many of times, as most of us here have probably thought, but it is not only what kind of money you will be loosing making a new car payment it is the money lost in the investments you made on your VX. Once a mod goes onto a vehicle you will never see that money back, but you don't loose the value personally unless you sell it. $300-$400 payment every month on a new (used) car would pay for lots of rentals and lots of repair bills on a paid for car. At this point it just sounds like you are frustrated and tired of dealing with car "issues". Which is totally understandable, we all here have had those moments when the VX was in the shop and we were planning on how to sell it, but just remember those first few moments behind the wheel of the newly fixed VX, remember that feeling, no car will ever be perfect, no car will ever be maintanence free, it is your choice which car to gamble with and invest into, my choice for a long time will be my paid for VX We totally understand your thought process though
    Dude said it well...

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    Selling the VX to buy new...

    PROS:
    1 ~ New toy excitement!
    2 ~ Less fear of breakdowns, and a warranty just in case...
    3 ~ Known monthly payments
    4 ~ Slight improvement in gas mileage
    5 ~ More bells & whistles
    6 ~ $$$ spent to keep VX in good shape will never be recouped
    7 ~ The Dubster (and everyone else here) will continue to love you!

    CONS:
    1 ~ Not owning an ISUZU VehiCROSS anymore...
    2 ~ Savings & $$$ from sale of VX used for down payment
    3 ~ Keep fixing stuff and soon it will be brand new again!
    4 ~ $$$ can't equal emotional value of VX

    I know we have talked quite a bit about this, but I wanted to chime in here at VehiCROSS.info... My humble opinion (I know... everyboby has them) is that you do what makes you happy. Life's too short to be bummed. Get a new ride if you don't want to keep pouring $$$ into the VehiCROSS. A new ride will cost more, but it will be worth more money and peace of mind. We still have mine, and your old Ironman that Luie has. The fact that you have fixed so much on this VX is a plus. Any new owner will be glad you have had all this stuff done. That you want the peace of mind of a newer ride is WAY understandable. That's why I got a Harley... to replace my Ducati Monster. The Monster is AWESOME (when running well), but the HOG is better in every way (except leaning WAY over into corners & pulling wheelies). I once traded a 1991 5.0 Mustang LX for an '88 Formula Fiero (which I still wish I had, but am even more glad I got the VX). Bottom line is that you need to do what's best for you. If I, or your VX family, can help make this easier... kewlness.
    The only thing we have to fear is fear itself... and zombies.


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    I may just be ranting, I hope that is what I am doing... But I am so incredibly frustrated!!! I keep trying to want to fix my VX and I DO, but I feel it is just a money pit. I love it more than it loves me! The trust is gone in our relationship. I have seen this before with my Dad and his DeLorean. He is a fanatic for his Delorean like we all are for our VX. He had a 1981 DeLorean and dumped all kinds of cash into it, fixing piece after piece, nearly completely restoring the thing. Only to get more problems, just like I keep getting with my VX, no matter how much love and affection I give it, it just keeps taking and taking. He soon sold his 1981 to get our house and soon after that got a 1983!!! Can you see the relation here??? And did it all over again. Paid about 13k for the car and put at least 13k into it in repairs. REPAIRS meaning new tranny 2 or 3 times ($6k) only warrantied for 6 mos. Complete engine rebuild, well the only thing he didn't replace was the front and rear axels. I love my Dad, but I don't want to make the same mistakes he did. He just sold his Delorean for $15k, he's at least $11k in the hole...

    I already got one axel berring (sp?) on my VX fixed!!! I have put 5k into my VX in 2 years and that doesn't include what I am going to pay when and if I get my baby back this time. And that is just maintenence, not cosmetic stuff... I can't even do the cosmetic stuff I want to because crap keeps popping up or popping off or just popping! Every time I take it into get an oil change I go in with a LIST of thing to fix. Though it looks mighty good up on the mechanic's lift! By the time I do fix everything on it, I fear, the cycle will begin to repeat itself...

    Sell VX: 10k
    Sell VX roof rack: ???
    Sell VX rail covers: ???
    school savings: 8k
    finance: 10k (not too bad) about $200-$250/mo.

    New FJ: Taller than Gill's VX, Eat into school savings and not worry about even the itty bitty problems because...New Car Factory warranty, or big ones...Lifetime Drivetrain warranty, Locking Diff., cosmetically sound, But it doesn't come in LEATHER! Part are readily available. Moab is in the horizon.

    Fix VX: Eat into school savings, and never get it back because the VX will never sell for what I keep putting into it. And continue to try and work overtime to cover the interest on my credit card bills that stacked up from even more repairs. Mine defintely can't make it out to Moab...



    Just for clarification,

    No one has/will offend me on your comments on here. I am just flustered with this and all the other craziness going on. I appreciate all of your input.

    No I am NOT pregnant!!! Though that did make me laugh and is good grounds for getting a new "bigger" ride!!!

    Though the Saturn Sky looks totally awesome, I would not survive winter though (that's the only Saturn I would wan to get...) Don't mean to thread jack my own thread, but didn't Saturn get excommunicated???

    This is EXACTLY how I feel:
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    If your looking at a new FJ with locking diff, your looking at more than the 20k I see by your calculations.....more like almost 30k. Jay has after market leather in his FJ, that thing rocks! AND 35 inch tires......not sure why he isnt posting pics.......Cece if you saw his pics you would be out the door to the dealership......but he also has mucho $$$ into it......so ANYTHING can become a money pit....
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    To keep it in perspective, I think it really boils down to what is it costing annually to maintain the VX vs what a car payment would be. 9 times out of 10, the car payment overshadows the previous. I think last year alone, I spent no more than $300 total on my VX. Sure wish I were able to pay that "a year" for my STi, heh. I guess it really comes down to what all "you" are having to do. If it's all that much, maybe the problem isn't the VX.... but how you are using it? Just throwing it out there. *shrug*

    I think you are just bummed about the VX and what it takes to keep one healthy. Mine bums me a LOT, especially since the S/C went in. But, I am hard on a car and I modify them before I even get my first oil change, so I am quite used to staring at CELs and diagnosing for hours on end in the garage (I clock more hours a month in my garage than I do in my bedroom... sad). I have debated MANY o' times about selling my VX but then I take her out for a ride, just me and her. Somewhere far away and quiet. Sure enough, we bond again and I suddenly fall in love all over again.

    It's paid off though. Surely you can man-up and hold on a bit to save up for a down payment on a DD. Put that ISUZU gem in the garage for Sundays and when Robb Report tells the world that the VX is worth $1billion, heh.
    Gary Noonan
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    Hi Tom!

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    Sorry to hear about your VX trouble CeCe. I remember seeing that VX before the previous owner had lifted it. It "appeared" to be in very good shape then (about 2 years before you bought it). The previous owner was a member here "Pigpen" if I remember right. Good luck in whatever choice you make.
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