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    Quote Originally Posted by ZEUS View Post
    How in the wide world of sports.....
    On a side note.....that phrase is hillarious!

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    circmand,
    This is exactly how right wing and left wing do things. They will put a spin on something that makes no sense. The idea is to get the thought out there and maybe it will take hold.

    Thanks to the members who are not followers.

    Peace.
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    I bet I know who you voted for. lol
    "Through Great Sacrifice..... Great Rewards Will Be Achieved"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomdietrying View Post
    circmand,
    p.s.
    I bet I know who you voted for. lol

    Seriously? The responsibility lies with a vote, that really doesn't matter anyway due to how the electoral system works anyway? Would a Republican in the big chair have made that difference?

    I don't know... maybe if.... IF... from a grass roots level we all decided to be responsible for ourselves instead us as a society, keep VOTING our rights away and asking big brother to take care of us....


    maybe

    if



    Yeah. Probably not.

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    You did not read the whole story, she got her permit back. So at the time of her death she had her permit. I have a permit to carry a concealed weapon. She was not carrying it concealed. And to a kids soccer game. She did not have to carry it the way she did , concealed yes ,not concealed No. shawn
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    if your going to talk about something controversial, know your facts first.....

    same problem you had in our camera/'cops' discussion
    "Do Not Seek Praise. Seek Criticism."

    "If You Can't Solve A Problem, It's Because You're Playing By The Rules."

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    craiger34,
    You didn't get it did you?
    Peace.
    Tom

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    I bet I know who you voted for too. lol

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    the point

    1 she had the gun legally in a holster withis easy reach
    2 the cops abused their authority and pulled her permit because a few women could not deal with the site of a gun
    3 a judge legally gave her back her gun and permit but verbally assaulted her for what was 100% legal\
    4. she then felt the need to hid e her gun in her back pack instead of having it in her holster as is 100% legal
    5. when her husband murdered her the gun was stuffed in her back pack and unavailable as opposed to on her hip in the holster.
    6. apparently gun rights opponents can see imaginary cheating over a computer as a reason for the husband to murder his wife but can not see this woman had a need to have a gun immediately accesable to her.
    7. tha fact that she was murdered and the police who abused their authority wrere no where around is proof she needed her weapon immediately available and the cops are useless

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    I obviously got something out of it, which was again: Personal responsibility. To carry a gun like that, in that situation was reckless. The murder that came later, whether related to the carrying of the gun, or her loss of being able to carry the gun is a stretch. To blame it on the "system"... in my opinion is an even bigger stretch.

    I wanted Ron Paul, but voted for a candidate whom I thought would actually make some changes. Nader. Seriously? Did you think you knew that one?


    Quote Originally Posted by tomdietrying View Post
    craiger34,
    You didn't get it did you?
    Peace.
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    p.s.
    I bet I know who you voted for too. lol

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