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    "A cops' presence getting you to slow down means that you had probably been speeding in the first place, otherwise, why would you feel it necessary to slow down just because a cop was present?"

    Now there's a leap of logic that doesn't translate to the real world. I see it alla time ... peeps driving at or below the speed limit still slow down when they see the POPO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom4bren View Post
    Now there's a leap of logic that doesn't translate to the real world. I see it alla time ... peeps driving at or below the speed limit still slow down when they see the POPO.
    Well you'd have to ask each person who slows down because a police car is present and they aren't speeding their reasons for doing so, because the logic behind that escapes me too.

    But speaking of translating to the real world, whether you are in a 35 or a 65 mph zone, how often nowadays do you actually find yourself and your peeps driving at or below the speed limit?

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    really circ? you believe everything you see on 'cops'?? do you really think they give you the whole story?
    yes, there are time when cops use excessive force and times when they have used it incorrectly.

    but its the other side of the story that the news/'cops' doesnt tell you.

    ive seen video's in class where the professor will show you: a cop being shot at, then being hit with a baseball hat, then the guy spitting in his face while he talks to him, then the guy kicks the cop in the nuts and takes off running... then the video switches to the same foot chase on 'cops' where the officer finally catches him and throws him down face first and arrests him. so what YOU see is the cop being 'excessive' but really he was using equal, or LESS force than the guy being chased. so people like you get all fired up because his chief is protecting him. get the whole story before you take sides my friend.

    you really expect a cop to go to a heavily armed drug dealers house and knock on the door and ask them nicely to please stop what they are doing? thats rediculous! there is EXTENSIVE research done on a situation long before they go kicking in doors. if a team of officers are kicking in a door with bullet proof vests on, there is a damn good reason! drug dealers houses are booby trapped, trip-wired for bombs.... come on man! be realistic.

    i had a longer more in-depth version but the site booted me before i could post it

    the reason these guys are kicking in doors with bullet-proof vests on is to protect their LIVES! these are the people the work day in and day out to protect your right to walk down the street, and to criticize them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
    really circ? you believe everything you see on 'cops'?? do you really think they give you the whole story?
    yes, there are time when cops use excessive force and times when they have used it incorrectly.

    but its the other side of the story that the news/'cops' doesnt tell you.

    ive seen video's in class where the professor will show you: a cop being shot at, then being hit with a baseball hat, then the guy spitting in his face while he talks to him, then the guy kicks the cop in the nuts and takes off running... then the video switches to the same foot chase on 'cops' where the officer finally catches him and throws him down face first and arrests him. so what YOU see is the cop being 'excessive' but really he was using equal, or LESS force than the guy being chased. so people like you get all fired up because his chief is protecting him. get the whole story before you take sides my friend.

    you really expect a cop to go to a heavily armed drug dealers house and knock on the door and ask them nicely to please stop what they are doing? thats rediculous! there is EXTENSIVE research done on a situation long before they go kicking in doors. if a team of officers are kicking in a door with bullet proof vests on, there is a damn good reason! drug dealers houses are booby trapped, trip-wired for bombs.... come on man! be realistic.

    i had a longer more in-depth version but the site booted me before i could post it

    the reason these guys are kicking in doors with bullet-proof vests on is to protect their LIVES! these are the people the work day in and day out to protect your right to walk down the street, and to criticize them.
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    weel yes I do beleive

    Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
    really circ? you believe everything you see on 'cops'?? do you really think they give you the whole story?
    yes, there are time when cops use excessive force and times when they have used it incorrectly.

    but its the other side of the story that the news/'cops' doesnt tell you.

    ive seen video's in class where the professor will show you: a cop being shot at, then being hit with a baseball hat, then the guy spitting in his face while he talks to him, then the guy kicks the cop in the nuts and takes off running... then the video switches to the same foot chase on 'cops' where the officer finally catches him and throws him down face first and arrests him. so what YOU see is the cop being 'excessive' but really he was using equal, or LESS force than the guy being chased. so people like you get all fired up because his chief is protecting him. get the whole story before you take sides my friend.

    you really expect a cop to go to a heavily armed drug dealers house and knock on the door and ask them nicely to please stop what they are doing? thats rediculous! there is EXTENSIVE research done on a situation long before they go kicking in doors. if a team of officers are kicking in a door with bullet proof vests on, there is a damn good reason! drug dealers houses are booby trapped, trip-wired for bombs.... come on man! be realistic.

    i had a longer more in-depth version but the site booted me before i could post it

    the reason these guys are kicking in doors with bullet-proof vests on is to protect their LIVES! these are the people the work day in and day out to protect your right to walk down the street, and to criticize them.
    what I see video taped and released with the permission of the cops. The cops allow the person to ride with tem and have final approval of everything taped before it is released. So when I see a dozen heavily armed cops in a hotel room and another cop luring one drug dealer in to an adjoining room and the dealer immediately giving up and yet the dozen cops attacking the crook yes the cops are nothing more than a more heavily armed gang that has the judge and attorney general on the payroll that lets them get away with breaking the law. Sure if the dealer has a gun the cops have a right to shoot and kill the dealer but when they shoot unarmed people or murder a groom on his wedding night and the guy had no gun but they pump 50 rounds into the guy. Yeah those cops are butchers and should be given the death penalty. When the shoot a 13 year old inthe back who is running away from them because they are too fat tooo run the unarmed 13 year old down yeah they should be arrested for murder, when peopel like OJ get off for murder because crooked cops plant evidence yeah they should be arrested for hindering prosecution. Why people think cops should be allowed to break the law just because they are cops is beyond me. In NY there is this guy who calls himself Johhny justice or some stupid name like that who goes out everyday and videotapes cops and city workers violating the lawand the city does nothing why should honest citiczens listen and respect these scumbags anymore than the criminals who are doing the exact same thing. Dont get me wrong if cops werent murdering innocent people taking bribes covering up for crimes I would support them 100% but that is not what is happening. Until the obese cops are fired for not being able to walk up stairs let alone do their jobs, until cops who murder innocent civilians are prosecuted instead of being let off to murder again, until cops arent getting paid a quarter million dollars a year to write traffic tickets while crime is happening rampant on our streets I will question allowing cops to have unfettered control over what they can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by circmand View Post
    until cops arent getting paid a quarter million dollars a year to write traffic tickets
    HAHAHA, god that would be GREAT!!!

    i would be more happy with my career choice if that was correct. try more like 30k a year....

    clearly your the type of person who believes tabloids and everything they see on tv. so there is no way anyone is going to convince you differently because you blindly follow lies.

    so, ill take T4B's approach....subside due to it not being worth the effort of argument.


    but god, would you please find a way for me to make 250k just writing tickets?! please!!! i promise ill do anything you want for that price...ill never arrest any child rapist, serial murderer or drug lord...

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    Actually

    Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
    HAHAHA, god that would be GREAT!!!

    i would be more happy with my career choice if that was correct. try more like 30k a year....

    clearly your the type of person who believes tabloids and everything they see on tv. so there is no way anyone is going to convince you differently because you blindly follow lies.

    so, ill take T4B's approach....subside due to it not being worth the effort of argument.


    but god, would you please find a way for me to make 250k just writing tickets?! please!!! i promise ill do anything you want for that price...ill never arrest any child rapist, serial murderer or drug lord...

    I read it in the Houston Chronicle and several are making that kind of money. They call each other to scenes so they all have to go to court and they make overtime sitting all day waiting to testify at time and half. This was a major situation on the front page photos of the cops who were commiting the fraud then letting them retire with their pension intact instead of going to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbkid View Post
    HAHAHA, god that would be GREAT!!!

    i would be more happy with my career choice if that was correct. try more like 30k a year....

    clearly your the type of person who believes tabloids and everything they see on tv. so there is no way anyone is going to convince you differently because you blindly follow lies.

    so, ill take T4B's approach....subside due to it not being worth the effort of argument.


    but god, would you please find a way for me to make 250k just writing tickets?! please!!! i promise ill do anything you want for that price...ill never arrest any child rapist, serial murderer or drug lord...
    I though you worked at best buy. Now I am confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrnCnn View Post
    I though you worked at best buy. Now I am confused.
    haha, yes i do. but im going to school to get a degree in criminal justice and to be a 'corrupt cop'....

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    Quote Originally Posted by circmand View Post
    what I see video taped and released with the permission of the cops. The cops allow the person to ride with tem and have final approval of everything taped before it is released. So when I see a dozen heavily armed cops in a hotel room and another cop luring one drug dealer in to an adjoining room and the dealer immediately giving up and yet the dozen cops attacking the crook yes the cops are nothing more than a more heavily armed gang that has the judge and attorney general on the payroll that lets them get away with breaking the law. Sure if the dealer has a gun the cops have a right to shoot and kill the dealer but when they shoot unarmed people or murder a groom on his wedding night and the guy had no gun but they pump 50 rounds into the guy. Yeah those cops are butchers and should be given the death penalty. When the shoot a 13 year old inthe back who is running away from them because they are too fat tooo run the unarmed 13 year old down yeah they should be arrested for murder, when peopel like OJ get off for murder because crooked cops plant evidence yeah they should be arrested for hindering prosecution. Why people think cops should be allowed to break the law just because they are cops is beyond me. In NY there is this guy who calls himself Johhny justice or some stupid name like that who goes out everyday and videotapes cops and city workers violating the lawand the city does nothing why should honest citiczens listen and respect these scumbags anymore than the criminals who are doing the exact same thing. Dont get me wrong if cops werent murdering innocent people taking bribes covering up for crimes I would support them 100% but that is not what is happening. Until the obese cops are fired for not being able to walk up stairs let alone do their jobs, until cops who murder innocent civilians are prosecuted instead of being let off to murder again, until cops arent getting paid a quarter million dollars a year to write traffic tickets while crime is happening rampant on our streets I will question allowing cops to have unfettered control over what they can do.
    We left out the innocent cops that get shot and killed everyday by criminals, who like you think the laws do not apply to them. And thats ok because all cops break the law and should be killed. You argue that citizens should not listen to these bad cops ,and then you say there is to much crime. The criminals do not listen to the cops that is why they are criminals. So YOU are the reason there is crime happening rampant in the street because you are telling the criminals not to obey the cops , and that is what they are doing. Bravo , you are the man. shawn

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    would have been better if it was also a radar detector....

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    what are you smoking

    Quote Originally Posted by psychos2 View Post
    We left out the innocent cops that get shot and killed everyday by criminals, who like you think the laws do not apply to them. And thats ok because all cops break the law and should be killed. You argue that citizens should not listen to these bad cops ,and then you say there is to much crime. The criminals do not listen to the cops that is why they are criminals. So YOU are the reason there is crime happening rampant in the street because you are telling the criminals not to obey the cops , and that is what they are doing. Bravo , you are the man. shawn
    I never said it was okay or good that cops get shot. But the cops who do break the law think it should not apply to them and the blue wall of silence protects them. They expect more than the citizen gets. And while I beleive a citizen should listen to a cop to many cops think they are king of the world and that it means they can tell anybody anything and they have to be listened to. Well that is BS. I never said it was all cops just too many cops and those cops get away with it way to often and when caught get off scot free or a slap on the wrist. If you want to be a cop you first and foremost shoeld be an example of what a good citizen should be. I think you need to reread what I wrote and quit making it up too try and justify cops who beat and murder innocent people because they thought they were criminals. After all the cop doesnt decide they are criminals the courts do and until they are ajudicated they are INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, something you and a lot of cops seem to think doesnt matter very much or chose to ignore because you do not think it is right. Why you think a cop should be free to break the law just because he wears a uniform is beyond me. Perhaps next the UPS guy or the local postman should be free to do what they want because they were a uniform.

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