Bitten by a Camera

[Y33TREKker]

Is for the to behave responsibily...

First I should say that I'm proceeding on the assumption that you meant "them", meaning the police or any other security personnel being referred to.

As far as that goes though, we have to remember the steps in which things occur. You ask that security and law enforcement behave responsibly, but a person would never have to worry about "them" behaving responsibly if the person had been behaving responsibly himself in the first place. If that person had been behaving responsibly, they probably wouldn't have encountered the police, etc. to begin with.

If you are going to keep conveniently leaving out the fact that a person having an encounter with a member of any sort of law enforcement in most cases (not all, but most) probably meant that that person was doing something they shouldn't have been doing, then you are back to promoting the idea that it's ok to simply place blame elsewhere instead of admitting personal fault, and accepting responsibility for your own actions and choices.

And while admittedly some of the incidents you've sited sound as if law enforcement in those cases over-reacted, how can anyone reading the examples you provide reach an objective conclusion to those examples without knowing the full context of each situation? Like psychos2 said, no one is saying that all cops are fair and honest, but to assume that all cops are all bad isn't fair or honest either.

How we keep getting from traffic cameras to subjects like this is still a puzzle though.

[psychos2]

Is for them to behave responsibily. But you make my point, they make some fat *** cop run 10 blocks and they have no problem beating the guy up and we ordinary citizens are supposed to accept that.

My answer would be YES the criminal deserved it. The reason they are being the way they are is because that ***hole just robbed a store or sold drugs to some 16 year old kid or they ran when the cop tried to stop them or they just raped someone or they have a warrant because they didn't appear in court last time they broke the law ETC ETC ETC. These people are supposed to have rights? I think they should have no rights. I think that states should be more like Texas. Or be like other countries , you steal from someone you get your hand chopped off. It all starts when you break the law ,It gets worse when you make it worse. Do you really think that a cop should not give you a ticket because all cops are bad? You should be able to break the law because___________ . Please fill in the blank because I am curious as to why. It is probably because the laws do not apply to you because everyone breaks them so if you get caught you should be let go. Or because you saw someone run tha stop sign yesterday so you should be able to because he didn't get caught so the cop should let you go.
shawn

[circmand]

The rhetorical part meant that I already knew what the answers probably were to the questions I was asking, ie;


"Slow down from what?" - A cops' presence getting you to slow down means that you had probably been speeding in the first place, otherwise, why would you feel it necessary to slow down just because a cop was present?
mits.

Do not worry I never take offense, However, my first reaction when I see a cop is always to pull my foot of the gas to start slowing down. I have received speeding tickets when not speeding and the judge automatically takes the cops word. One time i had been stuck behind a school bus and while still behing the cop pulls me over for speeding and it was 10 mph under the speed limit. Cop had no radar, no proof but his word and the judge automatically took his lieing words as truth. I think a lot of people of color can tell you they slow down automatically as well. The cold hard facts are cops are no better than anyone else just because they put on a gun and uniform they lie cheat and steal and have no problems doing it. And a good portion have a bully mentality and get off on the power being a cop gives them because no one respects who they are when they do not have a badge and gun. You see it on cop reality shows all the time. Making suspects say sir and maam and move or do things they have no right to tell them to do and just cause they are cops expect everyone to obey them.

I have met some cops that are entirely decent and are doing the job because they want to serve and protect but there are plenty of the other type around and the unions keep the bad examples on the force instead of putting them in prison where they belong. If a cop is suspected of illegal wrong doing in most cases they get more rights than the citizens they are sworn to protect.

[Gussie2000]

Do not worry I never take offense, However, my first reaction when I see a cop is always to pull my foot of the gas to start slowing down. I have received speeding tickets when not speeding and the judge automatically takes the cops word. One time i had been stuck behind a school bus and while still behing the cop pulls me over for speeding and it was 10 mph under the speed limit. Cop had no radar, no proof but his word and the judge automatically took his lieing words as truth. I think a lot of people of color can tell you they slow down automatically as well. The cold hard facts are cops are no better than anyone else just because they put on a gun and uniform they lie cheat and steal and have no problems doing it. And a good portion have a bully mentality and get off on the power being a cop gives them because no one respects who they are when they do not have a badge and gun. You see it on cop reality shows all the time. Making suspects say sir and maam and move or do things they have no right to tell them to do and just cause they are cops expect everyone to obey them.

I have met some cops that are entirely decent and are doing the job because they want to serve and protect but there are plenty of the other type around and the unions keep the bad examples on the force instead of putting them in prison where they belong. If a cop is suspected of illegal wrong doing in most cases they get more rights than the citizens they are sworn to protect.

The severity of the issues that irresponsible drivers brings along the roads can't be solve with traffic tickets in any way.
I believe that if a driver is caught running a traffic,hitting & running,wreckless driving,DWI or DUI several times it should be enough ground to revoke for ever the privilage to drive an motorvehicule again.tickets don't change for better the behavior of people like those behind the wheel.
If are caught driving while talking on your cell,drinking/eating,doing your make up few times it should be enough ground to suspend your license for an good period of time because you're no longer a driver,you became a threat to other driver's life & make sure you would not behind a wheel for that period of time your car should be seize 'till you prove that you are capable of being a good driver.
The goverment has spend millions & millions of $$$ to provide more security against terrorism;On the WTC attack almost 3K of people died,but irresposible drivers has killed more then 5K people during this year & isn't over yet.
Tickets doesn't solve the problem in its root but only to fill the state/city budget gap.

Getting into a wreck because you were on the cell & people get kiiled for that action it shouldn't be considered an accident any more & charge that driver with 2nd degree murder.
I have seen cops writing tickets to drivers for texting or talking,right after the cop release the driver you can see that same driver back on the cell rightaway

Radical problems needs radical solutions because out there's a huge bunch of idiots that doesn't deserve holding a DL at all.

[Scott Harness]

Radical problems needs radical solutions because out there's a huge bunch of idiots that doesn't deserve holding a DL at all.

x2... plus illegals don't have a license or insurance!
When they have an accident,they get out and run from the scene

[circmand]

The severity of the issues that irresponsible drivers brings along the roads can't be solve with traffic tickets in any way.
I believe that if a driver is caught running a traffic,hitting & running,wreckless driving,DWI or DUI several times it should be enough ground to revoke for ever the privilage to drive an motorvehicule again.tickets don't change for better the behavior of people like those behind the wheel.
If are caught driving while talking on your cell,drinking/eating,doing your make up few times it should be enough ground to suspend your license for an good period of time because you're no longer a driver,you became a threat to other driver's life & make sure you would not behind a wheel for that period of time your car should be seize 'till you prove that you are capable of being a good driver.
The goverment has spend millions & millions of $$$ to provide more security against terrorism;On the WTC attack almost 3K of people died,but irresposible drivers has killed more then 5K people during this year & isn't over yet.
Tickets doesn't solve the problem in its root but only to fill the state/city budget gap.

Getting into a wreck because you were on the cell & people get kiiled for that action it shouldn't be considered an accident any more & charge that driver with 2nd degree murder.
I have seen cops writing tickets to drivers for texting or talking,right after the cop release the driver you can see that same driver back on the cell rightaway

Radical problems needs radical solutions because out there's a huge bunch of idiots that doesn't deserve holding a DL at all.

Under age sex with a minor? We need cameras in everybodys bedroom,
Illegal gambling no playing cards sold or permit required
Hostile workplace- Tape record everybody
Pornography 100% internet spying by the government

Pick your cause and its okay to violate everyones rights but remember the next person may have a problem with something you do and want to watch you more than you would like.