Quote Originally Posted by nfpgasmask View Post
Honestly, I agree with what Justin was saying. Obviously, your average gang-banger is different than George W. and Dickless Chaney. But, Justin was drawing a comparison to the way that things are run. Gang turf is disputed in a crude, uncivilized, violent manner. But in a nut-shell, it is no different than any other turf war carried out by an organized and supposedly civilized government military. The only difference is, one group has no money, power or resources, while the other group does.

I hate to say it, but there is absolutely no convincing me that any war waged by this country has been anything more than a complicated turf war. You killed my homie on the corner of 22nd street and Kedzie last night, so I am gonna do a drive by and shoot at your house. You attacked Pearl Harbor and killed a whole bunch of my men and destroyed my battleship fleet, so I am gonna nuke the hell outta your two biggest strategic targets. The only difference here is scale.

We are all humans, and humans ARE animals. Once you accept that, and stop believing the nonsense that says otherwise, you can accept a whole lot of things you never imagined. Of course, you may choose NOT to accept it, you may choose to ignore it, you may choose to believe in fictional ideals and contrived "facts". You may choose to fight against nature till the day you die. Most people do. But I personally find much peace in realizing that all the "crazy" things happening today, have been happening since the dawn of time. The only difference between yesterday and today is scale and accessibility.

Bart

The US has never fought in a war where we did not give back everything we won and assist in repairingthe damage we caused. Japan Germany we kicked but in WWII but as soon as it was over we helped rebuild and gave money besides. The Marshall Plan etc. Also withall the nukes and advanced weapons we have we could have conquered the world or blown it to smithereens but we have always been war as a last resort. Even Iraq, sure a lot of america haters tried to claim we were in it for oil and nation building but we are now pulling soldiers out and leaving Iraq to Home Rule of its country withthem voting for the first time in decades. If you see no difference I do not see how you can have hope for a better world