I agree that it should include everything on the panel - the TOD, the tach, the gear display, the speedo, and the temp/fuel gauges. I'm not sure how well it will all look unless all of these are replaced.
I agree that it should include everything on the panel - the TOD, the tach, the gear display, the speedo, and the temp/fuel gauges. I'm not sure how well it will all look unless all of these are replaced.
I could live without the PRNDL peice but definitely have to have TOD. I sat in the VX and just couldn't wing it in my mind without a matching TOD display. And by matching I mean illuminated like the rest of the display. It's all manufactured the same way and I think the TOD display would look particulary cool with some of the options.
OmegaVX: I understand you're frustration on the inverter issue, but keep in mind the stock inverters are very cheap. I suspect Speedhut's cost is probably less than $5 per unit. If you look at similar gauges on eBay and such most of the vendors offer a solid-state inverter updgrade for like $10 or so. You'll probably need the extras as spares!
Inaba: Thanks again for getting this in motion and all your leg-work! Once there's confirmation from Speedhut that the TOD display looks and works like the rest of the package I'll do my deposit, otherwise I'm out.
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The gear display (PRDNL) would be hidden though.Originally posted by paultvx
There's already a bezel. The Rodeo one works. We have the same dash as a 97 Rodeo/Passport.
I hope they are patient with the questions...
Ok, gonna try to address several issues
1. The TOD will be included, and I believe Omegavx has gotten secondary confirmation of this now.
2. I was looking at the shift position indicator a little more closely, and I can't see how there could be an overlay for it. If you look at it, the green light to indicate position is behind a *clear* piece of plastic. I think maybe you could get a white strip of plastic to go in place of that black bit, but it would be problematical to install (would require some serious disassembly of the cluster) -- and putting an overlay on top of it would make the light really dim. Maybe someone with more experience in working with the cluster can clarify this?
3. VehiX - I'm not sure which bezels you mean? Can you clarify exactly what you're talking about and I'll try to get a solid answer for you. Unless you are talking about the whole black bezel around the entire cluster -- I don't think that'd be included as I believe that would be beyond the scope of a project like this. It would require plastics molding/injection and tooling for that is fairly expensive, and I believe it would increase the cost something fierce. The upside though is that the bezel would be fairly easy to paint/have painted (and cheap) if you really wanted a different color.
I will ask about an add on option for the bezel... but it will probably cost extra if that's the case.
You can take it to a plastics shop to have it laser cut to cut out the window for the gear indicator.Originally posted by BlackVX
The gear display (PRDNL) would be hidden though.
Inaba, I think this is what he's talking about.
Just a simple overlay.
Realize there is a duplicate gear indicator on the shift console so theoretically the dash one could be completely covered up.
1. Ok, looks like we got a final definativeon the TOD. It is now included.
Aaron's Response
Sorry about the miss understanding. This was answered by another person.
We have desided to INCLUDE the TOD with the kit. IT will be included, rest
assured.
Again sorry for the mis-communication
2. I agree with inaba, after further examination it would be almost impossible to make a cover for this and still have the lights show through.
3. A custom bezel would probably cost $75 to $125 on its own. If your interested in that I'd say mod the existing one, purchase a custom one for the rodeo and mod it or get another group buy going on the bezel. Its pretty far outside the range of custom gauge inclusion.
Last edited by omegavx : 08/15/2003 at 11:20 AM
Speedhut makes the bezel pictured a couple of messages above this one (or makes one identical to it). Since they already have the template, maybe they could cut out the area for the shift indicator inexpensively? They're pretty cheap on eBay ($10) - can't imagine that it would cost too much more to get one that fits the VX. They also have chrome ones on eBay - which might look pretty good.
You may think it's cheap to do... but based solely on the fact that they'd have to set up tooling to do it, they will consider it a custom job and seize the opportunity to make $ on it. Anyone else would do the same. They're a business not a charity, so I wouldn't count on it being cheap.
Like Tone mentioned... there is a set of indicators next to the shifter... the ones are the dash are really idiot lights. If you must have it on the dash, it's easy enough to mod the Rodeo bezel on your own. If it's made out of plastic, you can probably do it with very sharp exacto blades, a steady hand, and a lot of patience. A Dremel and a detail file will speed up the work quite a bit.
Inaba and OmegaVX: Just to be clear, in finding out that the TOD is definitely included was it mentioned whether or not it would also match the illumination?
Thanks!
They did not specify what illumination would look like only that they would appear in the same manner as the other gauges. I guess I assumed this meant lighting would be the same as well (ie: built off of the indiglo system).
Inaba, can you confirm this?
I just ordered my kit......![]()
I specified the TOD display and told them I wanted the O.E.M.
gear display to remain functional.
If they don't honor these two requests I'll figure something out on my own!
Thanks for trying to make this group buy happen!![]()
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It is my understanding that the TOD addition is automatically part of the deal, as well as the stock gear display, am I correct? It best be, since I have no center console dummy lights anymore, with my shifter boots installed. I am thinking that with ALL of these ideas popping up and all these emails shooting off to Speedhut, I may end up getting a stereo face that would fit the space shuttle. Let's try not to confuse Speedhut into delivering us painted waffles.Originally posted by Jolly Roger VX'er
I specified the TOD display and told them I wanted the O.E.M.
gear display to remain functional.
So, just for the record (and correct me if I am wrong), Speedhut is offering exactly what we specify on the site (colors, decals, fonts, blah blah blah), PLUS the addition of the TOD to be in the color that we specify on the site. For basic, non-specifying, detailed, additional notation, this is what the basic kit offers. If this is NOT a fact, someone ring in and set it right for the record. I may have to cancel my order if this is wrong. Having been one of the forst to order, I keep seeing changes to this product that worry me.
Below is what I expect to be the BASIC package, unless some special request is added....
(nice job BlackVX)
Gary Noonan
'01 S/C VX / '18 Forester XT
According to speedhut, the TOD will be included in the exact same "colors, decals, fonts, blah blah blah" as the speedo, tach and gas/oil gauges. This does not include any modification to the "PRND321" area that I know of. Inaba was going to check into any modification to this, but since it is simply a clear overlay it would be hard to match this to your requested styles. It is however my understanding that nothing will happen in the "PRND321" area at all, it will simply stay stock with its current clear indication. So, the package should include the following gauges in your requested settings
TOD
Speedo
Tach
Gas/oil
I sent an email off to aaron at speedhut just to make sure the "PRND321" info above is correct. I'll let you know what he says.
The kit includes:
1. Speedo
2. Tach
3. Fuel & Temp panel
4. TOD panel
5. Standard or upgraded inverter.
The kit does not include:
1. Gear indicator (remains stock).
2. Warning light panels.
3. Guage bezel.