Yeah I'm crazy...need snow tires

[snowtrooper1966]

It is more about the driver than the tire. Snow ghets packed when driven on and it creates heat. This melts the snow which then refreezes and trns to ice. No matter what tires you have you will slide on ice.

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I'll second that comment!
It really is more about the experience of the driver in bad snow / ice conditions than the tires, IMHO.
Driving home 200 miles in a blizzard when I first got the Dragon, there were no traction problems, even at freeway speeds in feet of powder.
I did, however, manage to spin it a few times when pushing it hard on snowy / icy roads when pushing the limits of good sense and testing the VX's capabilities.
From my experience, the short wheelbase really is not our friend in these conditions.
In general, no sharp turns and no hard braking.
Of the two, my Dragon was more forgiving with hard braking as opposed to sharp turns in the worst case scenarios.
That being said, I really like the Nitto Terra's I have, but you should be fine with just about any quality M/T tire out there. Just remember you can get any vehicle squirrley if you are not paying attention and in too much of a hurry on the bad days.....
Best,

[nfpgasmask]

The only time I have slid in my VX is when trying to stop going down hill. Twice I complete slid into the intersection. I don't know if my driving skills had anything to do with it. It was like the instant I touched the brake pedal, I was floating. Even when going only 25mph or so, on the downgrade, there ain't nuthin' to stop you.

Now, flat land snow driving is different. I definitely think traction and driving skills are important.

In general, I think a wider stance with a higher center of gravity is going to help reduce sliding, especially with meaty tires. I can't wait to see how the Trooper does this winter.

Bart

[tom4bren]

"In general, I think a wider stance with a higher center of gravity is going to help reduce sliding, especially with meaty tires."

FINALLY ... the 'offset from hell' is justified

[nfpgasmask]

"In general, I think a wider stance with a higher center of gravity is going to help reduce sliding, especially with meaty tires."

FINALLY ... the 'offset from hell' is justified

When I said wider, I meant a little wider, lol. But yea, I can't imagine you sliding or tipping much.

Bart

[tom4bren]

Since my track is different than everyone else's, driving in the snow is INTERESTING trying to stay in one track or the other.

But yer right, I don't tip.

[snowtrooper1966]

FINALLY ... the 'offset from hell' is justified

If for no other reason than to give us a Nelson Munz "Ha Ha" moment!

[Ldub]

If for no other reason than to give us a Nelson Munz "Ha Ha" moment!

[snowtrooper1966]

This tom4bren "offset from hell" bashing moment brought to you with love and affection by Ldub & snowtrooper1966

[tom4bren]

This tom4bren "offset from hell" bashing moment brought to you with love and affection by Ldub & snowtrooper1966

DANG ... it's getting deep in here

[snowtrooper1966]

Hey, Bart!
Both of my "testing the limits" slides were on hills, one, a sharp turn left that resulted in a 180 spin. And, believe it or not, I managed to get the Dragon to break loose and spin 360 going UPHILL on a slight curve that was icy. I WAS doing 50+, so no big surprise there...
Remember kids, these were calculated, controlled experiments on closed roads, so don't try this at home!
Yea, right
Best,

[nfpgasmask]

Yeah, we have a HUGE parking lot here at work. Several times in the winter I purposefully throttled the VX into a spin. With the AWD however, donuts are not as easy as you would think. Normally I can get the VX to slide sideways through the snow. But getting that full whip-around is tough.

Anyway, those few moments where I slid in the VX were the closest I have ever come to wrecking her. The worst was on a semi-steep grade, going down, and some schmuck pulled a turn in front of me. I was only going maybe 20-25 but the VX broke right out as soon as I touched the brake. I had to steer and slide her into the curb to keep from slamming into the dickbag who pulled out in front of me. That SUCKED. I swear, some people HAVE NO CLUE how to drive safely in the snow.

Thankfully now though, my VX will be hibernating for most of the winter while I tear up the unplowed Reno roads in my Trooper.

Bart

[Triathlete]

These tires seem to do okay in a lil bit of snow!