I have no off road lights...winter days are short, trail is loooooooonnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg, and its much easier to set up camp when there is light. Plus I get cranky when I get hungry and I plan on grilling some nice steaks!Originally Posted by pbkid
<---- thats what i would be doing if i had to be AT THE TRAILHEAD at 630....
sure glad i dont wheel with the likes of you arizonans often.
up here we start our trails at 12-noon(why else spend hundreds of dollars on offroad lights)
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