PCV Catch "Jar" and valve

[Joe_Black]

There's no differences in the pistons as the engines are the same having been pulled from the same assembly plant and production runs as concurrent Troopers, Rodeos and other light/medium trucks using the 6VE1. I've had the opportunity to check not only actual pistons and other components but the engines themselves and they're all the same. It simply isn't good business practice either to set up the scenario you suggest, especially as Isuzu is well known for using what they already have in production. That's also why you can find and cross many of the same parts across all lines of Isuzu light and medium trucks. You'd be surprised how much NPR stuff is in a VX!

As for looking at the baffling, I meant inside the new catch can.

[iamironman]

There's no differences in the pistons as the engines are the same having been pulled from the same assembly plant and production runs as concurrent Troopers, Rodeos and other light/medium trucks using the 6VE1. I've had the opportunity to check not only actual pistons and other components but the engines themselves and they're all the same. It simply isn't good business practice either to set up the scenario you suggest, especially as Isuzu is well known for using what they already have in production. That's also why you can find and cross many of the same parts across all lines of Isuzu light and medium trucks. You'd be surprised how much NPR stuff is in a VX!

As for looking at the baffling, I meant inside the new catch can.

Sorry to jack your thread Johnnyappolo...
Joe, we're going to have to agree to disagree.. I'm tired of this debate... I beg to differ... I've seen the pistons from TWO different '99 6VE1's a trooper and a VX... and the pistons from a brand new rebuild kit when I was contemplating going that route... they are DIFFERENT pistons... not a huge difference but noticable.. the rings are slightly thicker... the space for the rings are thicker to accomodate the rings and the spaces between the rings is different... I know.. I saw... I showed it to Tone also, he had a set from a blown '99... he agreed it was different face to face with me. And I had pics of the rebuild kit pistons on my phone, (which I lost, dropped it in the Guadalupe River). Go to a auto parts place and ask to see a rebuild kit for a '99 trooper, they "might" have it in stock... one O'Reilly's in San Antonio had one in stock after I spent three days hunting one down. I have an '02 Axiom engine in my VX now that doesn't use a single drop of oil... There has to be something different/FIXED on engines after may of 2000... the rate of blown engines after that DRAMATICALLY decreases... and it can't just be because of miles... the number of engines blown that were manufactured before May of 2000 covers a big spectrum of milage... I've read from 26k to 175k... and I'm only talking about the ones that blew from large oil consumption and starving piston one/bearing one on the crank... because of oil consumption caused by oil blow-by that stopped happening for the vast majority of engines built AFTER May of 2000.

P.S. my bad on the baffle thing... I know it was put forth here before, I think by Psycho (apologies if it wasn't him) that the baffles on the valve covers just under the PCV valve was a faulty design and that was why the PCV valves were failing, that's why I said those baffles are the same

[Gussie2000]

Sorry to jack your thread Johnnyappolo...
Joe, we're going to have to agree to disagree.. I'm tired of this debate... I beg to differ... I've seen the pistons from TWO different '99 6VE1's a trooper and a VX... and the pistons from a brand new rebuild kit when I was contemplating going that route... they are DIFFERENT pistons... not a huge difference but noticable.. the rings are slightly thicker... the space for the rings are thicker to accomodate the rings and the spaces between the rings is different... I know.. I saw... I showed it to Tone also, he had a set from a blown '99... he agreed it was different face to face with me. And I had pics of the rebuild kit pistons on my phone, (which I lost, dropped it in the Guadalupe River). Go to a auto parts place and ask to see a rebuild kit for a '99 trooper, they "might" have it in stock... one O'Reilly's in San Antonio had one in stock after I spent three days hunting one down. I have an '02 Axiom engine in my VX now that doesn't use a single drop of oil... There has to be something different/FIXED on engines after may of 2000... the rate of blown engines after that DRAMATICALLY decreases... and it can't just be because of miles... the number of engines blown that were manufactured before May of 2000 covers a big spectrum of milage... I've read from 26k to 175k... and I'm only talking about the ones that blew from large oil consumption and starving piston one/bearing one on the crank... because of oil consumption caused by oil blow-by that stopped happening for the vast majority of engines built AFTER May of 2000.

P.S. my bad on the baffle thing... I know it was put forth here before, I think by Psycho (apologies if it wasn't him) that the baffles on the valve covers just under the PCV valve was a faulty design and that was why the PCV valves were failing, that's why I said those baffles are the same

Ok,so i got question guys.
If any one of us decide to rebuild the '99 engine with the redesigned pistons/rings from the 2k engine will those be suitable for the '99 engine ?

[iamironman]

Ok,so i got question guys.
If any one of us decide to rebuild the '99 engine with the redesigned pistons/rings from the 2k engine will those be suitable for the '99 engine ?

Yes of course they will... they are the same part number (replaced, my educated guess) accross the board, for all the years, as long as it's a 6VE1 engine.

[psychos2]

Sorry to jack your thread Johnnyappolo...
Joe, we're going to have to agree to disagree.. I'm tired of this debate... I beg to differ... I've seen the pistons from TWO different '99 6VE1's a trooper and a VX... and the pistons from a brand new rebuild kit when I was contemplating going that route... they are DIFFERENT pistons... not a huge difference but noticable.. the rings are slightly thicker... the space for the rings are thicker to accomodate the rings and the spaces between the rings is different... I know.. I saw... I showed it to Tone also, he had a set from a blown '99... he agreed it was different face to face with me. And I had pics of the rebuild kit pistons on my phone, (which I lost, dropped it in the Guadalupe River). Go to a auto parts place and ask to see a rebuild kit for a '99 trooper, they "might" have it in stock... one O'Reilly's in San Antonio had one in stock after I spent three days hunting one down. I have an '02 Axiom engine in my VX now that doesn't use a single drop of oil... There has to be something different/FIXED on engines after may of 2000... the rate of blown engines after that DRAMATICALLY decreases... and it can't just be because of miles... the number of engines blown that were manufactured before May of 2000 covers a big spectrum of milage... I've read from 26k to 175k... and I'm only talking about the ones that blew from large oil consumption and starving piston one/bearing one on the crank... because of oil consumption caused by oil blow-by that stopped happening for the vast majority of engines built AFTER May of 2000.

P.S. my bad on the baffle thing... I know it was put forth here before, I think by Psycho (apologies if it wasn't him) that the baffles on the valve covers just under the PCV valve was a faulty design and that was why the PCV valves were failing, that's why I said those baffles are the same

The pistons from Oreillys would be an aftermarket set and would not be the same as Isuzu pistons.As far as I know you can only get stock parts from a dealer. I do believe that isuzu changed the piston design.I am not arguing that. But I do believe that the oil consumption issue that has been causing the failures is due to poor design of the valve cover.There is no baffle in the valve cover to stop the oil from getting sucked into the intake when the pcv valve fails. there are lots of engines out there with rings that are worn or stuck and they may burn a little oil but the do not have bearings failing because they use a little more oil. shawn