New Member Questions/Intro

[iamironman]

Probably you guys had some luck with your engines,but i also have two coworkers that have a 2001 rodeo & 2000 trooper,they do burn oil.

Some engines don't burn oil at all,others just a few & others a lot.

Remember that this 3.5L engine were all the same 'till 2002.

With the introduction of the 2002 axiom the 3.5L suffered significant improvement because isuzu redesigned the engine.

Not quite Gussie... they fixed (somewhat, not completely) engines built from may of 2000 to april of 2001... and they completely fixed any engines made after May of 2001 thru May of 2003... I think it had to do with the piston and cylinder design... Believe that has to do with the Vin "X" being the 8th digit (in VX's, and Axioms and Troopers). Also you aren't "supposed" to be able to use an Axiom engine AFTER May of '02 because they used a different Tranny... BUT! when my mechanic had both engines out of my VX he pointed out that the '02 Axiom engine I had (which was pre May '02), had two sets of bolt mounting for either tranny on the housing where the tranny mounted. Sure there will be some 2000 and 2001's with oil problems but not NEARLY (per capita) as many as the 99's... as far as I saw in my research this also held true for the Troopers thos same years.. way more blown engines in 99's and early 2000's than any other year.

EDIT: In fact here's the poll thread... http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ht=engine+poll
Compare how many production total '99's there were to '00's and '01's... and see the disparity in more 99's blown than in any other model year. I personally had two '99 engines go... the original VX motor and a '99 Trooper motor... I now have the correct motor... (lol)

OK .. enough thread jacking.. Sorry

[Gussie2000]

Not quite Gussie... they fixed (somewhat, not completely) engines built from may of 2000 to april of 2001... and they completely fixed any engines made after May of 2001 thru May of 2003... I think it had to do with the piston and cylinder design... Believe that has to do with the Vin "X" being the 8th digit (in VX's, and Axioms and Troopers). Also you aren't "supposed" to be able to use an Axiom engine AFTER May of '02 because they used a different Tranny... BUT! when my mechanic had both engines out of my VX he pointed out that the '02 Axiom engine I had (which was pre May '02), had two sets of bolt mounting for either tranny on the housing where the tranny mounted. Sure there will be some 2000 and 2001's with oil problems but not NEARLY (per capita) as many as the 99's... as far as I saw in my research this also held true for the Troopers thos same years.. way more blown engines in 99's and early 2000's than any other year.

EDIT: In fact here's the poll thread... http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ht=engine+poll
Compare how many production total '99's there were to '00's and '01's... and see the disparity in more 99's blown than in any other model year. I personally had two '99 engines go... the original VX motor and a '99 Trooper motor... I now have the correct motor... (lol)

OK .. enough thread jacking.. Sorry

Well yes,that's what i meant in the 1rst place though.

I read the same info you did about that "FIX" isuzu claimed trying to make the engine with less weight the added to the 99 engine smallers cylinders which caused to make the engine burn more oil then the average.

Anyhow my primary intention was to alert our mew fellow member about the engine oil issue.

[deermagnet]

I don't recall hearing about any differences in the engines in any Vehicross. Isuzu says that all Vehicri got the same engine before it was modified-


If you look up part numbers for the pistons and piston rings, the same pistons and rings were used in all Vehicross engines. If ya look up the Trooper engine, there's new part numbers for the pistons and rings starting in 2002.

I've been around from the start and I don't believe these engines were known to use much oil early on. Many owners did not see excessive oil use till 50-80K miles. I noticed mine at ~65K. I remember posts about the oil issue and I posted about how mine was not affected yet at Club VMag. Then it showed up later. The 99's have the most complaints 'cuz they've been around longer with more miles on 'em. Not all blown engines were low oil related. For those with low miles and no oil issues, keep a close eye on it. It may show up at any time now.

Mark

[BoarderCROSS2000]

Good stuff to consider. Makes me think getting a warranty might not be such a bad idea!

I'm used to oil consumption, but the engine failure issue sure is scary. I don't know if a leak down test would show signs of eminent failure but i'd get one any way as part of the pre purchase inspection.

Anyway thanks for the detail.

Jeff

[circmand]

Good stuff to consider. Makes me think getting a warranty might not be such a bad idea!

I'm used to oil consumption, but the engine failure issue sure is scary. I don't know if a leak down test would show signs of eminent failure but i'd get one any way as part of the pre purchase inspection.

Anyway thanks for the detail.

Jeff

a warranty may not be too bad but finding one that is not a total rip off is not easy. Check requirements you may pay for one and then find out your vehicle was not qualified in the 1st place

[BigSwede]

EDIT: In fact here's the poll thread... http://www.vehicross.info/forums/sho...ht=engine+poll
Compare how many production total '99's there were to '00's and '01's... and see the disparity in more 99's blown than in any other model year. I personally had two '99 engines go... the original VX motor and a '99 Trooper motor... I now have the correct motor... (lol)

Were these stats corrected for mileage? I would assume the 99s are going to have more miles than the newer years...