Muffler Help Needed

[Joe Isuzu]

OK, I admit I got caught up in the excitement of others and wanted to ditch the heavy OEM muffler for something more efficient. I began with the magnaflow (that'll be for sale if I don't hear back from cyronman), then I went to Borla but the exhaust shop convinced me it would be nearly as loud as the magnaflow. I'm returning the Borla and ended up with a Flowmaster. This is also much louder than I care for and the thing that gets me, it's not really a pleasant loud, just kinda obnoxious. So, I called Merlin today and the OEM muffler is backordered and also $320 (!!!) even with the discount.
Soooo, I need advice. And yes, I realize now I should have never taken off my OEM muffler to begin with. (bad boy!)
Any advice on something that's lighter than OEM and only slightly, if any, louder. I know the muffler shop probably thinks I have more money than sense, and in this case, they're right unfortunately.
Also, anyone with a spare good condition OEM muffler lying around?

[tomdietrying]

Yep....My OME was taken off at 15,000 miles or 5 years ago. I still have it in the attic.
Peace.
Tom
012009

[Joe Isuzu]

dude, how much and how pay?
I wanted ideally to end up with the VX better-off (more efficient) than before but now this has been such a mess, I'll be happy to be back to where I was before. If anything, I might have an OEM muffler with 70k less miles on it, so in that way, I'm a little better off!

[VehiGAZ]

but now this has been such a mess, I'll be happy to be back to where I was before.

Herein lies wisdom - when it comes to cars, you can often make an improvement, but usually at the cost of something else you weren't bargaining for.

The phrase "You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear" comes to mind...

[tom4bren]

Funny ... 0.1% increase in throttle response comes to my mind.

Sorry Zeus - you've had 2 unrequitted jabs at my expense lately ... just trying to catch up.

[tom4bren]

"OK, I admit I got caught up in the excitement of others and wanted to ditch the heavy OEM muffler for something more efficient."

Joe, how come you didn't go the route of a dual exhaust with free flow cats & a cross over?

[alleycat]

Yep....My OME was taken off at 15,000 miles or 5 years ago. I still have it in the attic.
Peace.
Tom
012009

Tom;
Still have the OEM muffler?
Ed
(alleyct@optonline.net)

[BigSwede]

FWIW I have put Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers on both my Troopers. If you get the 20" body models, they have a nice mellow throb at idle, you hear them on accel, but they are pretty quiet at cruise, you don't even notice it. The 14" body models are too loud, pretty much like the PV.

I put the 17748 model on my Troopers, it has the 2.5" pipe size which is good for a 3.5L.

http://www.dynomax.com/ecat/pdfs/superturbo.pdf

[Riff Raff]

FWIW I have put Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers on both my Troopers. If you get the 20" body models, they have a nice mellow throb at idle, you hear them on accel, but they are pretty quiet at cruise, you don't even notice it. The 14" body models are too loud, pretty much like the PV.

I put the 17748 model on my Troopers, it has the 2.5" pipe size which is good for a 3.5L.

http://www.dynomax.com/ecat/pdfs/superturbo.pdf

BIG SWEDE--- Thanx for the tip on the Dynomax Super Turbo muffler. This is exactly what VehiGAZ has recommended many times in the past; although he didn't mention if he used the 20" body or the 14" body. You mentioned that you installed the 20" body on your Troopers; do you think the 20" body version will also fit on the VX too??? In any event; when I need a muffler replacement, it definately will be the Dynomax Super Turbo muffler (with the biggest "body" that will fit on the VX).

[BigSwede]

If the VX OEM muffler is anything like the Trooper muffler they are huge and there should be enough room for a Super Turbo there. They are fairly long but a lot thinner than the OEM.

If I remember I'll look under a VX in Moab...:bwgr:

[VehiGAZ]

This is exactly what VehiGAZ has recommended many times in the past; although he didn't mention if he used the 20" body or the 14" body.

It was the big dog - the 20" model.

One of our members just changed from OEM to the stock-piping-size Dynomax Super Turbo (rather than up-sizing to 2.5") and got plenty of new-found torque in the process. This makes it a cheap and easy install - should be no more than $125 - $150 total for the muffler and installation.

[PittVXr]

FWIW I have put Dynomax Super Turbo mufflers on both my Troopers. If you get the 20" body models, they have a nice mellow throb at idle, you hear them on accel, but they are pretty quiet at cruise, you don't even notice it. The 14" body models are too loud, pretty much like the PV.

I put the 17748 model on my Troopers, it has the 2.5" pipe size which is good for a 3.5L.

http://www.dynomax.com/ecat/pdfs/superturbo.pdf

I'm giving a big thumbs up to the Dynomax Super Turbo. I've had it on for a week now and I think it sounds great. It sounds pretty much how BigSwede describes it. I went with 2.5 inch Stainless Steel Pipe and a 3 inch tip.

[Riff Raff]

I'm giving a big thumbs up to the Dynomax Super Turbo. I've had it on for a week now and I think it sounds great. It sounds pretty much how BigSwede describes it. I went with 2.5 inch Stainless Steel Pipe and a 3 inch tip.

PittVXr--- Ok; that's it, I'm sold!!! It is without a doubt going to be the Dynomax Super Turbo muffler with the 20" body for me, period. All of the other brands/models have had various VX complaints about the sound (too loud, too raspy, too ricey) except the Dynomax Super Turbo with the 20" body.

My only question is-- Does going with a "Dual Exhaust" pose a problem with the VX due to various undercarriage obstacles in routing tubing??? I suppose that a single Dynomax Super Turbo muffler could be used with 1-inlet/2-outlet or would twin mufflers be better??? If it's a real PITA to fabricate a dual set-up, then I'll just duplicate what PittVXr has done. Any advice (pros/cons) on a "dual set-up"???