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I think the boxter falls right in with the s2000, miata, etc. It looks like tiny girly car to me. I know they are roadsters and they handle well, but I just don't like the style of it.

I agree completely here. Boxters carry the "cheap Porsche" stigma even among the Porsche crowd I think. And yes, they are girly.

While I'm not nuts about the new subarus I did really like the early 2000's with the round headlights.

I admit, they seemed to be trying there at least. But I think when compared, the Mitsubishi Lacer Evo has a cooler (meaner) looking front end.

The funny thing about every STI/WRX owner I have ever know is they were also big off-road fans and many of them who could afford it also had wheelin rigs. I'll tell you now, I'll take that WRX in the dirt any day over the porsche, which is where the comparison falls apart.

Agreed. I am not comparing the WRX and the Porsche as rally vehicles. Obviously, if a person buys a Subi to actually rally it, I can understand. Like you and PB said, that is what they were built for. I guess its just the people who buy a Subi, or a Lancer, or a Honda Accord for that matter, and try to make a race car out of it. I do not understand that. Unless, like Jack said, it is an envy thing, except envy that you can't afford a REAL sports car so you have to make one with a 4-door sedan.

My whole beef is not with the cars themselves. Like I said, I'm sure they are really fast, and super reliable. I even think I read somewhere that Subis were voted the most reliable brand of automobile recently by like Consumer Reports or something. My point is, like I said above, why spend the money tricking out a 4-door sedan when you could, in many cases, but a car that looks like a sports car AND drives like one too?

That being said, since it's what you want to hear, yes, I think they are pretty damn ugly cars, but I feel that way about both of the cars in discussion.

I would never buy a WRX, and if I went out an bought a Porsche right now, it would probably be a pristine black 928 or a Cayenne. Like I said above, the 911 is the wife's, and although it is nice, it ain't my style really.

I think alot of the newer sports muscle cars are butt ugly. I also hate BMW and Mercedes. and I REALLY wish all the dip****s in detroit would lay down the retro pencil. Why pay 29 grand for a lame *** copy of a 67 fastback when I can buy a nicely restored one for the same and nearly break my knee on the clutch?'

I feel the same way I feel about Subis as I do about Mercedes and BMWs. If I had $80k to spend on a car, there ain't NO EFFING way I would buy a BMW. I would be buying a used Ferrari, a Porsche, a DeLorean, a Lotus, something BAD @$s! Not some yuppie luxury sports sedan...

And I agree about the new muscle too. Why spend $35k on a new Mustang
when I could own a CHERRY restored, uber tuned 1972 Mach 1?

Still, a good discussion...

Bart